PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: Theodorus, Theaetetus, Socrates. An Eleatic Stranger, whom Theodorus and Theaetetus bring with them. The younger Socrates, who is a silent auditor.
THEODORUS
Here we are, Socrates, true to our agreement of yesterday; and we bring with us a stranger from Elea, who is a disciple of Parmenides and Zeno, and a true philosopher.
SOCRATES
Is he not rather a god, Theodorus, who comes to us in the disguise of a stranger? For Homer says that all the gods, and especially the god of strangers, are companions of the meek and just, and visit the good and evil among men. And may not your companion be one of those higher powers, a cross-examining deity, who has come to spy out our weakness in argument, and to cross-examine us?
THEODORUS
Nay, Socrates, he is not one of the disputatious sort—he is too good for that. And, in my opinion, he is not a god at all; but divine he certainly is, for this is a title which I should give to all philosophers.
SOCRATES
Capital, my friend! and I may add that they are almost as hard to be discerned as the gods. For the true philosophers, and such as are not merely made up for the occasion, appear in various forms unrecognized by the ignorance of men, and they 'hover about cities,' as Homer declares, looking from above upon human life; and some think nothing of them, and others can never think enough; and sometimes they appear as statesmen, and sometimes as sophists; and then, again, to many they seem to be no better than madmen. I should like to ask our Eleatic friend, if he would tell us, what is thought about them in Italy, and to whom the terms are applied.
THEODORUS
What terms?
SOCRATES
Sophist, statesman, philosopher.
THEODORUS
What is your difficulty about them, and what made you ask?
SOCRATES
I want to know whether by his countrymen they are regarded as one or two; or do they, as the names are three, distinguish also three
kinds, and a**ign one to each name?
THEODORUS
I dare say that the Stranger will not object to discuss the question. What do you say, Stranger?
STRANGER
I am far from objecting, Theodorus, nor have I any difficulty in replying that by us they are regarded as three. But to define
precisely the nature of each of them is by no means a slight or easy task.
THEODORUS You have happened to light, Socrates, almost on the very question which we were asking our friend before we came hither, and he
excused himself to us, as he does now to you; although he admitted that the matter had been fully discussed, and that he remembered the
answer.
SOCRATES
Then do not, Stranger, deny us the first favour which we ask of you I am sure that you will not, and therefore I shall only beg of
you to say whether you like and are accustomed to make a long oration on a subject which you want to explain to another, or to proceed by the
method of question and answer. I remember hearing a very noble discussion in which Parmenides employed the latter of the two methods, when I
was a young man, and he was far advanced in years. (Compare Parm.)
STRANGER
I prefer to talk with another when he responds pleasantly, and is light in hand; if not, I would rather have my own say.
SOCRATES
Any one of the present company will respond kindly to you, and you can choose whom you like of them; I should recommend you to take
a young person—Theaetetus, for example—unless you have a preference for some one else.
STRANGER
I feel ashamed, Socrates, being a new-comer into your society, instead of talking a little and hearing others talk, to be spinning
out a long soliloquy or address, as if I wanted to show off. For the true answer will certainly be a very long one, a great deal longer than
might be expected from such a short and simple question. At the same time, I fear that I may seem rude and ungracious if I refuse your
courteous request, especially after what you have said. For I certainly cannot object to your proposal, that Theaetetus should respond, having
already conversed with him myself, and being recommended by you to take him.
THEAETETUS
But are you sure, Stranger, that this will be quite so acceptable to the rest of the company as Socrates imagines?
STRANGER
You hear them applauding, Theaetetus; after that, there is nothing more to be said. Well then, I am to argue with you, and if you
tire of the argument, you may complain of your friends and not of me.
THEAETETUS
I do not think that I shall tire, and if I do, I shall get my friend here, young Socrates, the namesake of the elder Socrates, to
help; he is about my own age, and my partner at the gymnasium, and is constantly accustomed to work with me.
STRANGER
Very good; you can decide about that for yourself as we proceed. Meanwhile you and I will begin together and enquire into the nature
of the Sophist, first of the three I should like you to make out what he is and bring him to light in a discussion; for at present we are
only agreed about the name, but of the thing to which we both apply the name possibly you have one notion and I another; whereas we ought
always to come to an understanding about the thing itself in terms of a definition, and not merely about the name minus the definition. Now
the tribe of Sophists which we are investigating is not easily caught or defined; and the world has long ago agreed, that if great subjects
are to be adequately treated, they must be studied in the lesser and easier instances of them before we proceed to the greatest of all. And as
I know that the tribe of Sophists is troublesome and hard to be caught, I should recommend that we practise beforehand the method which is to
be applied to him on some simple and smaller thing, unless you can suggest a better way.
THEAETETUS
Indeed I cannot.
STRANGER
Then suppose that we work out some lesser example which will be a pattern of the greater?
THEAETETUS
Good.
STRANGER
What is there which is well known and not great, and is yet as susceptible of definition as any larger thing? Shall I say an angler?
He is familiar to all of us, and not a very interesting or important person.
THEAETETUS
He is not.
STRANGER
Yet I suspect that he will furnish us with the sort of definition and line of enquiry which we want.
THEAETETUS
Very good.
STRANGER
Let us begin by asking whether he is a man having art or not having art, but some other power.
THEAETETUS
He is clearly a man of art.
STRANGER
And of arts there are two kinds?
THEAETETUS
What are they?
STRANGER
There is agriculture, and the tending of mortal creatures, and the art of constructing or moulding vessels, and there is the art of
imitation—all these may be appropriately called by a single name.
THEAETETUS
What do you mean? And what is the name?
STRANGER
He who brings into existence something that did not exist before is said to be a producer, and that which is brought into existence
is said to be produced.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And all the arts which were just now mentioned are characterized by this power of producing?
THEAETETUS
They are.
STRANGER
Then let us sum them up under the name of productive or creative art.
THEAETETUS
Very good.
STRANGER
Next follows the whole cla** of learning and cognition; then comes trade, fighting, hunting. And since none of these produces
anything, but is only engaged in conquering by word or deed, or in preventing others from conquering, things which exist and have been already
produced—in each and all of these branches there appears to be an art which may be called acquisitive.
THEAETETUS
Yes, that is the proper name.
STRANGER
Seeing, then, that all arts are either acquisitive or creative, in which cla** shall we place the art of the angler?
THEAETETUS
Clearly in the acquisitive cla**.
STRANGER
And the acquisitive may be subdivided into two parts there is exchange, which is voluntary and is effected by gifts, hire,
purchase; and the other part of acquisitive, which takes by force of word or deed, may be termed conquest?
THEAETETUS
That is implied in what has been said.
STRANGER
And may not conquest be again subdivided?
THEAETETUS
How?
STRANGER
Open force may be called fighting, and secret force may have the general name of hunting?
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And there is no reason why the art of hunting should not be further divided.
THEAETETUS
How would you make the division?
STRANGER
Into the hunting of living and of lifeless prey.
THEAETETUS
Yes, if both kinds exist.
STRANGER
Of course they exist; but the hunting after lifeless things having no special name, except some sorts of diving, and other small
matters, may be omitted; the hunting after living things may be called animal hunting.
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And animal hunting may be truly said to have two divisions, land-animal hunting, which has many kinds and names, and water-animal
hunting, or the hunting after animals who swim?
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And of swimming animals, one cla** lives on the wing and the other in the water?
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
Fowling is the general term under which the hunting of all birds is included.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
The hunting of animals who live in the water has the general name of fishing.
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And this sort of hunting may be further divided also into two principal kinds?
THEAETETUS
What are they?
STRANGER
There is one kind which takes them in nets, another which takes them by a blow.
THEAETETUS
What do you mean, and how do you distinguish them?
STRANGER
As to the first kind—all that surrounds and encloses anything to prevent egress, may be rightly called an enclosure.
THEAETETUS
Very true.
STRANGER
For which reason twig baskets, casting-nets, nooses, creels, and the like may all be termed 'enclosures'?
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And therefore this first kind of capture may be called by us capture with enclosures, or something of that sort?
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
The other kind, which is practised by a blow with hooks and three-pronged spears, when summed up under one name, may be called
striking, unless you, Theaetetus, can find some better name?
THEAETETUS
Never mind the name—what you suggest will do very well.
STRANGER
There is one mode of striking, which is done at night, and by the light of a fire, and is by the hunters themselves called firing,
or spearing by firelight.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And the fishing by day is called by the general name of barbing, because the spears, too, are barbed at the point.
THEAETETUS
Yes, that is the term.
STRANGER
Of this barb-fishing, that which strikes the fish who is below from above is called spearing, because this is the way in which the
three-pronged spears are mostly used.
THEAETETUS
Yes, it is often called so.
STRANGER
Then now there is only one kind remaining.
THEAETETUS
What is that?
STRANGER
When a hook is used, and the fish is not struck in any chance part of his body, as he is with the spear, but only about the head and
mouth, and is then drawn out from below upwards with reeds and rods—What is the right name of that mode of fishing, Theaetetus?
THEAETETUS
I suspect that we have now discovered the object of our search.
STRANGER
Then now you and I have come to an understanding not only about the name of the angler's art, but about the definition of the thing
itself. One half of all art was acquisitive—half of the acquisitive art was conquest or taking by force, half of this was hunting, and half of
hunting was hunting animals, half of this was hunting water animals—of this again, the under half was fishing, half of fishing was striking; a
part of striking was fishing with a barb, and one half of this again, being the kind which strikes with a hook and draws the fish from below
upwards, is the art which we have been seeking, and which from the nature of the operation is denoted angling or drawing up (aspalieutike,
anaspasthai).
THEAETETUS
The result has been quite satisfactorily brought out.
STRANGER
And now, following this pattern, let us endeavour to find out what a Sophist is.
THEAETETUS
By all means.
STRANGER
The first question about the angler was, whether he was a sk**ed artist or unsk**ed?
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And shall we call our new friend unsk**ed, or a thorough master of his craft?
THEAETETUS
Certainly not unsk**ed, for his name, as, indeed, you imply, must surely express his nature.
STRANGER
Then he must be supposed to have some art.
THEAETETUS
What art?
STRANGER
By heaven, they are cousins! it never occurred to us.
THEAETETUS
Who are cousins?
STRANGER
The angler and the Sophist.
THEAETETUS
In what way are they related?
STRANGER
They both appear to me to be hunters.
THEAETETUS
How the Sophist? Of the other we have spoken.
STRANGER
You remember our division of hunting, into hunting after swimming animals and land animals?
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And you remember that we subdivided the swimming and left the land animals, saying that there were many kinds of them?
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
Thus far, then, the Sophist and the angler, starting from the art of acquiring, take the same road?
THEAETETUS
So it would appear.
STRANGER
Their paths diverge when they reach the art of animal hunting; the one going to the sea-shore, and to the rivers and to the lakes,
and angling for the animals which are in them.
THEAETETUS
Very true.
STRANGER
While the other goes to land and water of another sort—rivers of wealth and broad meadow-lands of generous youth; and he also is
intending to take the animals which are in them.
THEAETETUS
What do you mean?
STRANGER
Of hunting on land there are two principal divisions.
THEAETETUS
What are they?
STRANGER
One is the hunting of tame, and the other of wild animals.
THEAETETUS
But are tame animals ever hunted?
STRANGER
Yes, if you include man under tame animals. But if you like you may say that there are no tame animals, or that, if there are, man
is not among them; or you may say that man is a tame animal but is not hunted—you shall decide which of these alternatives you prefer.
THEAETETUS
I should say, Stranger, that man is a tame animal, and I admit that he is hunted.
STRANGER
Then let us divide the hunting of tame animals into two parts.
THEAETETUS
How shall we make the division?
STRANGER
Let us define piracy, man-stealing, tyranny, the whole military art, by one name, as hunting with violence.
THEAETETUS
Very good.
STRANGER
But the art of the lawyer, of the popular orator, and the art of conversation may be called in one word the art of persuasion.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And of persuasion, there may be said to be two kinds?
THEAETETUS
What are they?
STRANGER
One is private, and the other public.
THEAETETUS
Yes; each of them forms a cla**.
STRANGER
And of private hunting, one sort receives hire, and the other brings gifts.
THEAETETUS
I do not understand you.
STRANGER
You seem never to have observed the manner in which lovers hunt.
THEAETETUS
To what do you refer?
STRANGER
I mean that they lavish gifts on those whom they hunt in addition to other inducements.
THEAETETUS
Most true.
STRANGER
Let us admit this, then, to be the amatory art.
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
But that sort of hireling whose conversation is pleasing and who baits his hook only with pleasure and exacts nothing but his
maintenance in return, we should all, if I am not mistaken, describe as possessing flattery or an art of making things pleasant.
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
And that sort, which professes to form acquaintances only for the sake of virtue, and demands a reward in the shape of money, may be
fairly called by another name?
THEAETETUS
To be sure.
STRANGER
And what is the name? Will you tell me?
THEAETETUS
It is obvious enough; for I believe that we have discovered the Sophist which is, as I conceive, the proper name for the cla**
described.
STRANGER
Then now, Theaetetus, his art may be traced as a branch of the appropriative, acquisitive family—which hunts animals,—living—land—
tame animals; which hunts man,—privately—for hire,—taking money in exchange—having the semblance of education; and this is termed Sophistry,
and is a hunt after young men of wealth and rank—such is the conclusion.
THEAETETUS
Just so.
STRANGER
Let us take another branch of his genealogy; for he is a professor of a great and many-sided art; and if we look back at what has
preceded we see that he presents another aspect, besides that of which we are speaking.
THEAETETUS
In what respect?
STRANGER
There were two sorts of acquisitive art; the one concerned with hunting, the other with exchange.
THEAETETUS
There were.
STRANGER
And of the art of exchange there are two divisions, the one of giving, and the other of selling.
THEAETETUS
Let us a**ume that.
STRANGER
Next, we will suppose the art of selling to be divided into two parts.
THEAETETUS
How?
STRANGER
There is one part which is distinguished as the sale of a man's own productions; another, which is the exchange of the works of
others.
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
And is not that part of exchange which takes place in the city, being about half of the whole, termed retailing?
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And that which exchanges the goods of one city for those of another by selling and buying is the exchange of the merchant?
THEAETETUS
To be sure.
STRANGER
And you are aware that this exchange of the merchant is of two kinds it is partly concerned with food for the use of the body, and
partly with the food of the soul which is bartered and received in exchange for money.
THEAETETUS
What do you mean?
STRANGER
You want to know what is the meaning of food for the soul; the other kind you surely understand.
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
Take music in general and painting and marionette playing and many other things, which are purchased in one city, and carried away
and sold in another—wares of the soul which are hawked about either for the sake of instruction or amusement;—may not he who takes them about
and sells them be quite as truly called a merchant as he who sells meats and drinks?
THEAETETUS
To be sure he may.
STRANGER
And would you not call by the same name him who buys up knowledge and goes about from city to city exchanging his wares for money?
THEAETETUS
Certainly I should.
STRANGER
Of this merchandise of the soul, may not one part be fairly termed the art of display? And there is another part which is certainly
not less ridiculous, but being a trade in learning must be called by some name germane to the matter?
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
The latter should have two names,—one descriptive of the sale of the knowledge of virtue, and the other of the sale of other kinds
of knowledge.
THEAETETUS
Of course.
STRANGER
The name of art-seller corresponds well enough to the latter; but you must try and tell me the name of the other.
THEAETETUS
He must be the Sophist, whom we are seeking; no other name can possibly be right.
STRANGER
No other; and so this trader in virtue again turns out to be our friend the Sophist, whose art may now be traced from the art of
acquisition through exchange, trade, merchandise, to a merchandise of the soul which is concerned with speech and the knowledge of virtue.
THEAETETUS
Quite true.
STRANGER
And there may be a third reappearance of him;—for he may have settled down in a city, and may fabricate as well as buy these same
wares, intending to live by selling them, and he would still be called a Sophist?
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
Then that part of the acquisitive art which exchanges, and of exchange which either sells a man's own productions or retails those
of others, as the case may be, and in either way sells the knowledge of virtue, you would again term Sophistry?
THEAETETUS
I must, if I am to keep pace with the argument.
STRANGER
Let us consider once more whether there may not be yet another aspect of sophistry.
THEAETETUS
What is it?
STRANGER
In the acquisitive there was a subdivision of the combative or fighting art.
THEAETETUS
There was.
STRANGER
Perhaps we had better divide it.
THEAETETUS
What shall be the divisions?
STRANGER
There shall be one division of the competitive, and another of the pugnacious.
THEAETETUS
Very good.
STRANGER
That part of the pugnacious which is a contest of bodily strength may be properly called by some such name as violent.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And when the war is one of words, it may be termed controversy?
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And controversy may be of two kinds.
THEAETETUS
What are they?
STRANGER
When long speeches are answered by long speeches, and there is public discussion about the just and unjust, that is forensic
controversy.
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And there is a private sort of controversy, which is cut up into questions and answers, and this is commonly called disputation?
THEAETETUS
Yes, that is the name.
STRANGER
And of disputation, that sort which is only a discussion about contracts, and is carried on at random, and without rules of art, is
recognized by the reasoning faculty to be a distinct cla**, but has hitherto had no distinctive name, and does not deserve to receive one from
us.
THEAETETUS
No; for the different sorts of it are too minute and heterogeneous.
STRANGER
But that which proceeds by rules of art to dispute about justice and injustice in their own nature, and about things in general, we
have been accustomed to call argumentation (Eristic)?
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
And of argumentation, one sort wastes money, and the other makes money.
THEAETETUS
Very true.
STRANGER
Suppose we try and give to each of these two cla**es a name.
THEAETETUS
Let us do so.
STRANGER
I should say that the habit which leads a man to neglect his own affairs for the pleasure of conversation, of which the style is far
from being agreeable to the majority of his hearers, may be fairly termed loquacity such is my opinion.
THEAETETUS
That is the common name for it.
STRANGER
But now who the other is, who makes money out of private disputation, it is your turn to say.
THEAETETUS
There is only one true answer he is the wonderful Sophist, of whom we are in pursuit, and who reappears again for the fourth
time.
STRANGER
Yes, and with a fresh pedigree, for he is the money-making species of the Eristic, disputatious, controversial, pugnacious,
combative, acquisitive family, as the argument has already proven.
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
How true was the observation that he was a many-sided animal, and not to be caught with one hand, as they say!
THEAETETUS
Then you must catch him with two.
STRANGER
Yes, we must, if we can. And therefore let us try another track in our pursuit of him You are aware that there are certain menial
occupations which have names among servants?
THEAETETUS
Yes, there are many such; which of them do you mean?
STRANGER
I mean such as sifting, straining, winnowing, threshing.
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
And besides these there are a great many more, such as carding, spinning, adjusting the warp and the woof; and thousands of similar
expressions are used in the arts.
THEAETETUS
Of what are they to be patterns, and what are we going to do with them all?
STRANGER
I think that in all of these there is implied a notion of division.
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
Then if, as I was saying, there is one art which includes all of them, ought not that art to have one name?
THEAETETUS
And what is the name of the art?
STRANGER
The art of discerning or discriminating.
THEAETETUS
Very good.
STRANGER
Think whether you cannot divide this.
THEAETETUS
I should have to think a long while.
STRANGER
In all the previously named processes either like has been separated from like or the better from the worse.
THEAETETUS
I see now what you mean.
STRANGER
There is no name for the first kind of separation; of the second, which throws away the worse and preserves the better, I do know a
name.
THEAETETUS
What is it?
STRANGER
Every discernment or discrimination of that kind, as I have observed, is called a purification.
THEAETETUS
Yes, that is the usual expression.
STRANGER
And any one may see that purification is of two kinds.
THEAETETUS
Perhaps so, if he were allowed time to think; but I do not see at this moment.
STRANGER
There are many purifications of bodies which may with propriety be comprehended under a single name.
THEAETETUS
What are they, and what is their name?
STRANGER
There is the purification of living bodies in their inward and in their outward parts, of which the former is duly effected by
medicine and gymnastic, the latter by the not very dignified art of the bath-man; and there is the purification of inanimate substances—to
this the arts of fulling and of furbishing in general attend in a number of minute particulars, having a variety of names which are thought
ridiculous.
THEAETETUS
Very true.
STRANGER There can be no doubt that they are thought ridiculous, Theaetetus; but then the dialectical art never considers whether the benefit
to be derived from the purge is greater or less than that to be derived from the sponge, and has not more interest in the one than in the
other; her endeavour is to know what is and is not kindred in all arts, with a view to the acquisition of intelligence; and having this in
view, she honours them all alike, and when she makes comparisons, she counts one of them not a whit more ridiculous than another; nor does she
esteem him who adduces as his example of hunting, the general's art, at all more decorous than another who cites that of the vermin-destroyer,
but only as the greater pretender of the two. And as to your question concerning the name which was to comprehend all these arts of
purification, whether of animate or inanimate bodies, the art of dialectic is in no wise particular about fine words, if she may be only
allowed to have a general name for all other purifications, binding them up together and separating them off from the purification of the soul
or intellect. For this is the purification at which she wants to arrive, and this we should understand to be her aim.
THEAETETUS
Yes, I understand; and I agree that there are two sorts of purification, and that one of them is concerned with the soul, and that
there is another which is concerned with the body.
STRANGER
Excellent; and now listen to what I am going to say, and try to divide further the first of the two.
THEAETETUS
Whatever line of division you suggest, I will endeavour to a**ist you.
STRANGER
Do we admit that virtue is distinct from vice in the soul?
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
And purification was to leave the good and to cast out whatever is bad?
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
Then any taking away of evil from the soul may be properly called purification?
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And in the soul there are two kinds of evil.
THEAETETUS
What are they?
STRANGER
The one may be compared to disease in the body, the other to deformity.
THEAETETUS
I do not understand.
STRANGER
Perhaps you have never reflected that disease and discord are the same.
THEAETETUS
To this, again, I know not what I should reply.
STRANGER
Do you not conceive discord to be a dissolution of kindred elements, originating in some disagreement?
THEAETETUS
Just that.
STRANGER
And is deformity anything but the want of measure, which is always unsightly?
THEAETETUS
Exactly.
STRANGER
And do we not see that opinion is opposed to desire, pleasure to anger, reason to pain, and that all these elements are opposed to
one another in the souls of bad men?
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
And yet they must all be akin?
THEAETETUS
Of course.
STRANGER
Then we shall be right in calling vice a discord and disease of the soul?
THEAETETUS
Most true.
STRANGER
And when things having motion, and aiming at an appointed mark, continually miss their aim and glance aside, shall we say that this
is the effect of symmetry among them, or of the want of symmetry?
THEAETETUS
Clearly of the want of symmetry.
STRANGER
But surely we know that no soul is voluntarily ignorant of anything?
THEAETETUS
Certainly not.
STRANGER
And what is ignorance but the aberration of a mind which is bent on truth, and in which the process of understanding is perverted?
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
Then we are to regard an unintelligent soul as deformed and devoid of symmetry?
THEAETETUS
Very true.
STRANGER
Then there are these two kinds of evil in the soul—the one which is generally called vice, and is obviously a disease of the soul...
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And there is the other, which they call ignorance, and which, because existing only in the soul, they will not allow to be vice.
THEAETETUS
I certainly admit what I at first disputed—that there are two kinds of vice in the soul, and that we ought to consider cowardice,
intemperance, and injustice to be alike forms of disease in the soul, and ignorance, of which there are all sorts of varieties, to be
deformity.
STRANGER
And in the case of the body are there not two arts which have to do with the two bodily states?
THEAETETUS
What are they?
STRANGER
There is gymnastic, which has to do with deformity, and medicine, which has to do with disease.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And where there is insolence and injustice and cowardice, is not chastisement the art which is most required?
THEAETETUS
That certainly appears to be the opinion of mankind.
STRANGER
Again, of the various kinds of ignorance, may not instruction be rightly said to be the remedy?
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And of the art of instruction, shall we say that there is one or many kinds? At any rate there are two principal ones. Think.
THEAETETUS
I will.
STRANGER
I believe that I can see how we shall soonest arrive at the answer to this question.
THEAETETUS
How?
STRANGER
If we can discover a line which divides ignorance into two halves. For a division of ignorance into two parts will certainly imply
that the art of instruction is also twofold, answering to the two divisions of ignorance.
THEAETETUS
Well, and do you see what you are looking for?
STRANGER
I do seem to myself to see one very large and bad sort of ignorance which is quite separate, and may be weighed in the scale against
all other sorts of ignorance put together.
THEAETETUS
What is it?
STRANGER
When a person supposes that he knows, and does not know; this appears to be the great source of all the errors of the intellect.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And this, if I am not mistaken, is the kind of ignorance which specially earns the title of stupidity.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
What name, then, shall be given to the sort of instruction which gets rid of this?
THEAETETUS
The instruction which you mean, Stranger, is, I should imagine, not the teaching of handicraft arts, but what, thanks to us, has
been termed education in this part the world.
STRANGER
Yes, Theaetetus, and by nearly all Hellenes. But we have still to consider whether education admits of any further division.
THEAETETUS
We have.
STRANGER
I think that there is a point at which such a division is possible.
THEAETETUS
Where?
STRANGER
Of education, one method appears to be rougher, and another smoother.
THEAETETUS
How are we to distinguish the two?
STRANGER
There is the time-honoured mode which our fathers commonly practised towards their sons, and which is still adopted by many—either
of roughly reproving their errors, or of gently advising them; which varieties may be correctly included under the general term of admonition.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
But whereas some appear to have arrived at the conclusion that all ignorance is involuntary, and that no one who thinks himself wise
is willing to learn any of those things in which he is conscious of his own cleverness, and that the admonitory sort of instruction gives much
trouble and does little good—
THEAETETUS
There they are quite right.
STRANGER
Accordingly, they set to work to eradicate the spirit of conceit in another way.
THEAETETUS
In what way?
STRANGER
They cross-examine a man's words, when he thinks that he is saying something and is really saying nothing, and easily convict him of
inconsistencies in his opinions; these they then collect by the dialectical process, and placing them side by side, show that they contradict
one another about the same things, in relation to the same things, and in the same respect. He, seeing this, is angry with himself, and grows
gentle towards others, and thus is entirely delivered from great prejudices and harsh notions, in a way which is most amusing to the hearer,
and produces the most lasting good effect on the person who is the subject of the operation. For as the physician considers that the body will
receive no benefit from taking food until the internal obstacles have been removed, so the purifier of the soul is conscious that his patient
will receive no benefit from the application of knowledge until he is refuted, and from refutation learns modesty; he must be purged of his
prejudices first and made to think that he knows only what he knows, and no more.
THEAETETUS
That is certainly the best and wisest state of mind.
STRANGER
For all these reasons, Theaetetus, we must admit that refutation is the greatest and chiefest of purifications, and he who has not
been refuted, though he be the Great King himself, is in an awful state of impurity; he is uninstructed and deformed in those things in which
he who would be truly blessed ought to be fairest and purest.
THEAETETUS
Very true.
STRANGER
And who are the ministers of this art? I am afraid to say the Sophists.
THEAETETUS
Why?
STRANGER
Lest we should a**ign to them too high a prerogative.
THEAETETUS
Yet the Sophist has a certain likeness to our minister of purification.
STRANGER
Yes, the same sort of likeness which a wolf, who is the fiercest of animals, has to a dog, who is the gentlest. But he who would not
be found tripping, ought to be very careful in this matter of comparisons, for they are most slippery things. Nevertheless, let us a**ume that
the Sophists are the men. I say this provisionally, for I think that the line which divides them will be marked enough if proper care is
taken.
THEAETETUS Likely enough.
STRANGER
Let us grant, then, that from the discerning art comes purification, and from purification let there be separated off a part which
is concerned with the soul; of this mental purification instruction is a portion, and of instruction education, and of education, that
refutation of vain conceit which has been discovered in the present argument; and let this be called by you and me the nobly-descended art of
Sophistry.
THEAETETUS
Very well; and yet, considering the number of forms in which he has presented himself, I begin to doubt how I can with any truth
or confidence describe the real nature of the Sophist.
STRANGER
You naturally feel perplexed; and yet I think that he must be still more perplexed in his attempt to escape us, for as the proverb
says, when every way is blocked, there is no escape; now, then, is the time of all others to set upon him.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
First let us wait a moment and recover breath, and while we are resting, we may reckon up in how many forms he has appeared. In the
first place, he was discovered to be a paid hunter after wealth and youth.
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
In the second place, he was a merchant in the goods of the soul.
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
In the third place, he has turned out to be a retailer of the same sort of wares.
THEAETETUS
Yes; and in the fourth place, he himself manufactured the learned wares which he sold.
STRANGER
Quite right; I will try and remember the fifth myself. He belonged to the fighting cla**, and was further distinguished as a hero of
debate, who professed the eristic art.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
The sixth point was doubtful, and yet we at last agreed that he was a purger of souls, who cleared away notions obstructive to
knowledge.
THEAETETUS
Very true.
STRANGER
Do you not see that when the professor of any art has one name and many kinds of knowledge, there must be something wrong? The
multiplicity of names which is applied to him shows that the common principle to which all these branches of knowledge are tending, is not
understood.
THEAETETUS
I should imagine this to be the case.
STRANGER
At any rate we will understand him, and no indolence shall prevent us. Let us begin again, then, and re-examine some of our
statements concerning the Sophist; there was one thing which appeared to me especially characteristic of him.
THEAETETUS
To what are you referring?
STRANGER
We were saying of him, if I am not mistaken, that he was a disputer?
THEAETETUS
We were.
STRANGER
And does he not also teach others the art of disputation?
THEAETETUS
Certainly he does.
STRANGER
And about what does he profess that he teaches men to dispute? To begin at the beginning—Does he make them able to dispute about
divine things, which are invisible to men in general?
THEAETETUS
At any rate, he is said to do so.
STRANGER
And what do you say of the visible things in heaven and earth, and the like?
THEAETETUS
Certainly he disputes, and teaches to dispute about them.
STRANGER
Then, again, in private conversation, when any universal a**ertion is made about generation and essence, we know that such persons
are tremendous argufiers, and are able to impart their own sk** to others.
THEAETETUS
Undoubtedly.
STRANGER
And do they not profess to make men able to dispute about law and about politics in general?
THEAETETUS
Why, no one would have anything to say to them, if they did not make these professions.
STRANGER
In all and every art, what the craftsman ought to say in answer to any question is written down in a popular form, and he who likes
may learn.
THEAETETUS
I suppose that you are referring to the precepts of Protagoras about wrestling and the other arts?
STRANGER
Yes, my friend, and about a good many other things. In a word, is not the art of disputation a power of disputing about all things?
THEAETETUS
Certainly; there does not seem to be much which is left out.
STRANGER
But oh! my dear youth, do you suppose this possible? for perhaps your young eyes may see things which to our duller sight do not
appear.
THEAETETUS
To what are you alluding? I do not think that I understand your present question.
STRANGER
I ask whether anybody can understand all things.
THEAETETUS
Happy would mankind be if such a thing were possible!
SOCRATES
But how can any one who is ignorant dispute in a rational manner against him who knows?
THEAETETUS
He cannot.
STRANGER
Then why has the sophistical art such a mysterious power?
THEAETETUS
To what do you refer?
STRANGER
How do the Sophists make young men believe in their supreme and universal wisdom? For if they neither disputed nor were thought to
dispute rightly, or being thought to do so were deemed no wiser for their controversial sk**, then, to quote your own observation, no one
would give them money or be willing to learn their art.
THEAETETUS
They certainly would not.
STRANGER
But they are willing.
THEAETETUS
Yes, they are.
STRANGER
Yes, and the reason, as I should imagine, is that they are supposed to have knowledge of those things about which they dispute?
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
And they dispute about all things?
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And therefore, to their disciples, they appear to be all-wise?
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
But they are not; for that was shown to be impossible.
THEAETETUS
Impossible, of course.
STRANGER
Then the Sophist has been shown to have a sort of conjectural or apparent knowledge only of all things, which is not the truth?
THEAETETUS
Exactly; no better description of him could be given.
STRANGER
Let us now take an illustration, which will still more clearly explain his nature.
THEAETETUS
What is it?
STRANGER
I will tell you, and you shall answer me, giving your very closest attention. Suppose that a person were to profess, not that he
could speak or dispute, but that he knew how to make and do all things, by a single art.
THEAETETUS
All things?
STRANGER
I see that you do not understand the first word that I utter, for you do not understand the meaning of 'all.'
THEAETETUS
No, I do not.
STRANGER
Under all things, I include you and me, and also animals and trees.
THEAETETUS
What do you mean?
STRANGER
Suppose a person to say that he will make you and me, and all creatures.
THEAETETUS
What would he mean by 'making'? He cannot be a husbandman;—for you said that he is a maker of animals.
STRANGER
Yes; and I say that he is also the maker of the sea, and the earth, and the heavens, and the gods, and of all other things; and,
further, that he can make them in no time, and sell them for a few pence.
THEAETETUS
That must be a jest.
STRANGER
And when a man says that he knows all things, and can teach them to another at a small cost, and in a short time, is not that a
jest?
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER And is there any more artistic or graceful form of jest than imitation?
THEAETETUS
Certainly not; and imitation is a very comprehensive term, which includes under one cla** the most diverse sorts of things.
STRANGER
We know, of course, that he who professes by one art to make all things is really a painter, and by the painter's art makes
resemblances of real things which have the same name with them; and he can deceive the less intelligent sort of young children, to whom he
shows his pictures at a distance, into the belief that he has the absolute power of making whatever he likes.
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
And may there not be supposed to be an imitative art of reasoning? Is it not possible to enchant the hearts of young men by words
poured through their ears, when they are still at a distance from the truth of facts, by exhibiting to them fictitious arguments, and making
them think that they are true, and that the speaker is the wisest of men in all things?
THEAETETUS
Yes; why should there not be another such art?
STRANGER
But as time goes on, and their hearers advance in years, and come into closer contact with realities, and have learnt by sad
experience to see and feel the truth of things, are not the greater part of them compelled to change many opinions which they formerly
entertained, so that the great appears small to them, and the easy difficult, and all their dreamy speculations are overturned by the facts of
life?
THEAETETUS
That is my view, as far as I can judge, although, at my age, I may be one of those who see things at a distance only.
STRANGER
And the wish of all of us, who are your friends, is and always will be to bring you as near to the truth as we can without the sad
reality. And now I should like you to tell me, whether the Sophist is not visibly a magician and imitator of true being; or are we still
disposed to think that he may have a true knowledge of the various matters about which he disputes?
THEAETETUS
But how can he, Stranger? Is there any doubt, after what has been said, that he is to be located in one of the divisions of
children's play?
STRANGER
Then we must place him in the cla** of magicians and mimics.
THEAETETUS
Certainly we must.
STRANGER
And now our business is not to let the animal out, for we have got him in a sort of dialectical net, and there is one thing which he
decidedly will not escape.
THEAETETUS
What is that?
STRANGER
The inference that he is a juggler.
THEAETETUS
Precisely my own opinion of him.
STRANGER
Then, clearly, we ought as soon as possible to divide the image-making art, and go down into the net, and, if the Sophist does not
run away from us, to seize him according to orders and deliver him over to reason, who is the lord of the hunt, and proclaim the capture of
him; and if he creeps into the recesses of the imitative art, and secretes himself in one of them, to divide again and follow him up until in
some sub-section of imitation he is caught. For our method of tackling each and all is one which neither he nor any other creature will ever
escape in triumph.
THEAETETUS
Well said; and let us do as you propose.
STRANGER
Well, then, pursuing the same an*lytic method as before, I think that I can discern two divisions of the imitative art, but I am not
as yet able to see in which of them the desired form is to be found.
THEAETETUS
Will you tell me first what are the two divisions of which you are speaking?
STRANGER
One is the art of likeness-making;—generally a likeness of anything is made by producing a copy which is executed according to the proportions of the original, similar in length and breadth and depth, each thing receiving also its appropriate colour.
THEAETETUS
Is not this always the aim of imitation?
STRANGER
Not always; in works either of sculpture or of painting, which are of any magnitude, there is a certain degree of deception; for
artists were to give the true proportions of their fair works, the upper part, which is farther off, would appear to be out of proportion in
comparison with the lower, which is nearer; and so they give up the truth in their images and make only the proportions which appear to be
beautiful, disregarding the real ones.
THEAETETUS
Quite true.
STRANGER
And that which being other is also like, may we not fairly call a likeness or image?
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And may we not, as I did just now, call that part of the imitative art which is concerned with making such images the art of
likeness-making?
THEAETETUS
Let that be the name.
STRANGER
And what shall we call those resemblances of the beautiful, which appear such owing to the unfavourable position of the spectator,
whereas if a person had the power of getting a correct view of works of such magnitude, they would appear not even like that to which they
profess to be like? May we not call these 'appearances,' since they appear only and are not really like?
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
There is a great deal of this kind of thing in painting, and in all imitation.
THEAETETUS
Of course.
STRANGER
And may we not fairly call the sort of art, which produces an appearance and not an image, phantastic art?
THEAETETUS
Most fairly.
STRANGER
These then are the two kinds of image-making—the art of making likenesses, and phantastic or the art of making appearances?
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
I was doubtful before in which of them I should place the Sophist, nor am I even now able to see clearly; verily he is a wonderful
and inscrutable creature. And now in the cleverest manner he has got into an impossible place.
THEAETETUS
Yes, he has.
STRANGER
Do you speak advisedly, or are you carried away at the moment by the habit of a**enting into giving a hasty answer?
THEAETETUS
May I ask to what you are referring?
STRANGER
My dear friend, we are engaged in a very difficult speculation—there can be no doubt of that; for how a thing can appear and seem,
and not be, or how a man can say a thing which is not true, has always been and still remains a very perplexing question. Can any one say or
think that falsehood really exists, and avoid being caught in a contradiction? Indeed, Theaetetus, the task is a difficult one.
THEAETETUS
Why?
STRANGER
He who says that falsehood exists has the audacity to a**ert the being of not-being; for this is implied in the possibility of
falsehood. But, my boy, in the days when I was a boy, the great Parmenides protested against this doctrine, and to the end of his life he
continued to inculcate the same lesson—always repeating both in verse and out of verse
'Keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is.'
Such is his testimony, which is confirmed by the very expression when sifted a little. Would you object to begin with the consideration of the
words themselves?
THEAETETUS
Never mind about me; I am only desirous that you should carry on the argument in the best way, and that you should take me with
you.
STRANGER
Very good; and now say, do we venture to utter the forbidden word 'not-being'?
THEAETETUS
Certainly we do.
STRANGER
Let us be serious then, and consider the question neither in strife nor play suppose that one of the hearers of Parmenides was
asked, 'To what is the term "not-being" to be applied?'—do you know what sort of object he would single out in reply, and what answer he would
make to the enquirer?
THEAETETUS
That is a difficult question, and one not to be answered at all by a person like myself.
STRANGER
There is at any rate no difficulty in seeing that the predicate 'not-being' is not applicable to any being.
THEAETETUS
None, certainly.
STRANGER
And if not to being, then not to something.
THEAETETUS
Of course not.
STRANGER
It is also plain, that in speaking of something we speak of being, for to speak of an abstract something naked and isolated from all
being is impossible.
THEAETETUS
Impossible.
STRANGER
You mean by a**enting to imply that he who says something must say some one thing?
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
Some in the singular (ti) you would say is the sign of one, some in the dual (tine) of two, some in the plural (tines) of many?
THEAETETUS
Exactly.
STRANGER
Then he who says 'not something' must say absolutely nothing.
THEAETETUS
Most a**uredly.
STRANGER
And as we cannot admit that a man speaks and says nothing, he who says 'not-being' does not speak at all.
THEAETETUS
The difficulty of the argument can no further go.
STRANGER
Not yet, my friend, is the time for such a word; for there still remains of all perplexities the first and greatest, touching the
very foundation of the matter.
THEAETETUS
What do you mean? Do not be afraid to speak.
STRANGER To that which is, may be attributed some other thing which is?
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
But can anything which is, be attributed to that which is not?
THEAETETUS
Impossible.
STRANGER
And all number is to be reckoned among things which are?
THEAETETUS
Yes, surely number, if anything, has a real existence.
STRANGER
Then we must not attempt to attribute to not-being number either in the singular or plural?
THEAETETUS
The argument implies that we should be wrong in doing so.
STRANGER
But how can a man either express in words or even conceive in thought things which are not or a thing which is not without number?
THEAETETUS
How indeed?
STRANGER
When we speak of things which are not, are we not attributing plurality to not-being?
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
But, on the other hand, when we say 'what is not,' do we not attribute unity?
THEAETETUS
Manifestly.
STRANGER
Nevertheless, we maintain that you may not and ought not to attribute being to not-being?
THEAETETUS
Most true.
STRANGER
Do you see, then, that not-being in itself can neither be spoken, uttered, or thought, but that it is unthinkable, unutterable,
unspeakable, indescribable?
THEAETETUS
Quite true.
STRANGER
But, if so, I was wrong in telling you just now that the difficulty which was coming is the greatest of all.
THEAETETUS
What! is there a greater still behind?
STRANGER
Well, I am surprised, after what has been said already, that you do not see the difficulty in which he who would refute the notion
of not-being is involved. For he is compelled to contradict himself as soon as he makes the attempt.
THEAETETUS What do you mean? Speak more clearly.
STRANGER
Do not expect clearness from me. For I, who maintain that not-being has no part either in the one or many, just now spoke and am
still speaking of not-being as one; for I say 'not-being.' Do you understand?
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And a little while ago I said that not-being is unutterable, unspeakable, indescribable do you follow?
THEAETETUS
I do after a fashion.
STRANGER
When I introduced the word 'is,' did I not contradict what I said before?
THEAETETUS
Clearly.
STRANGER
And in using the singular verb, did I not speak of not-being as one?
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And when I spoke of not-being as indescribable and unspeakable and unutterable, in using each of these words in the singular, did I
not refer to not-being as one?
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
And yet we say that, strictly speaking, it should not be defined as one or many, and should not even be called 'it,' for the use of
the word 'it' would imply a form of unity.
THEAETETUS
Quite true.
STRANGER
How, then, can any one put any faith in me? For now, as always, I am unequal to the refutation of not-being. And therefore, as I was
saying, do not look to me for the right way of speaking about not-being; but come, let us try the experiment with you.
THEAETETUS
What do you mean?
STRANGER
Make a noble effort, as becomes youth, and endeavour with all your might to speak of not-being in a right manner, without
introducing into it either existence or unity or plurality.
THEAETETUS
It would be a strange boldness in me which would attempt the task when I see you thus discomfited.
STRANGER
Say no more of ourselves; but until we find some one or other who can speak of not-being without number, we must acknowledge that
the Sophist is a clever rogue who will not be got out of his hole.
THEAETETUS
Most true.
STRANGER
And if we say to him that he professes an art of making appearances, he will grapple with us and retort our argument upon ourselves;
and when we call him an image-maker he will say, 'Pray what do you mean at all by an image?'—and I should like to know, Theaetetus, how we can
possibly answer the younker's question?
THEAETETUS
We shall doubtless tell him of the images which are reflected in water or in mirrors; also of sculptures, pictures, and other
duplicates.
STRANGER
I see, Theaetetus, that you have never made the acquaintance of the Sophist.
THEAETETUS
Why do you think so?
STRANGER
He will make believe to have his eyes shut, or to have none.
THEAETETUS
What do you mean?
STRANGER
When you tell him of something existing in a mirror, or in sculpture, and address him as though he had eyes, he will laugh you to
scorn, and will pretend that he knows nothing of mirrors and streams, or of sight at all; he will say that he is asking about an idea.
THEAETETUS
What can he mean?
STRANGER
The common notion pervading all these objects, which you speak of as many, and yet call by the single name of image, as though it
were the unity under which they were all included. How will you maintain your ground against him?
THEAETETUS
How, Stranger, can I describe an image except as something fashioned in the likeness of the true?
STRANGER
And do you mean this something to be some other true thing, or what do you mean?
THEAETETUS
Certainly not another true thing, but only a resemblance.
STRANGER
And you mean by true that which really is?
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And the not true is that which is the opposite of the true?
THEAETETUS
Exactly.
STRANGER
A resemblance, then, is not really real, if, as you say, not true?
THEAETETUS
Nay, but it is in a certain sense.
STRANGER
You mean to say, not in a true sense?
THEAETETUS
Yes; it is in reality only an image.
STRANGER
Then what we call an image is in reality really unreal.
THEAETETUS
In what a strange complication of being and not-being we are involved!
STRANGER
Strange! I should think so. See how, by his reciprocation of opposites, the many-headed Sophist has compelled us, quite against our
will, to admit the existence of not-being.
THEAETETUS
Yes, indeed, I see.
STRANGER
The difficulty is how to define his art without falling into a contradiction.
THEAETETUS
How do you mean? And where does the danger lie?
STRANGER
When we say that he deceives us with an illusion, and that his art is illusory, do we mean that our soul is led by his art to think
falsely, or what do we mean?
THEAETETUS
There is nothing else to be said.
STRANGER
Again, false opinion is that form of opinion which thinks the opposite of the truth—You would a**ent?
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
You mean to say that false opinion thinks what is not?
THEAETETUS
Of course.
STRANGER
Does false opinion think that things which are not are not, or that in a certain sense they are?
THEAETETUS
Things that are not must be imagined to exist in a certain sense, if any degree of falsehood is to be possible.
STRANGER
And does not false opinion also think that things which most certainly exist do not exist at all?
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And here, again, is falsehood?
THEAETETUS
Falsehood—yes.
STRANGER
And in like manner, a false proposition will be deemed to be one which a**erts the non-existence of things which are, and the
existence of things which are not.
THEAETETUS
There is no other way in which a false proposition can arise.
STRANGER
There is not; but the Sophist will deny these statements. And indeed how can any rational man a**ent to them, when the very
expressions which we have just used were before acknowledged by us to be unutterable, unspeakable, indescribable, unthinkable? Do you see his
point, Theaetetus?
THEAETETUS
Of course he will say that we are contradicting ourselves when we hazard the a**ertion, that falsehood exists in opinion and in
words; for in maintaining this, we are compelled over and over again to a**ert being of not-being, which we admitted just now to be an utter
impossibility.
STRANGER
How well you remember! And now it is high time to hold a consultation as to what we ought to do about the Sophist; for if we persist
in looking for him in the cla** of false workers and magicians, you see that the handles for objection and the difficulties which will arise
are very numerous and obvious.
THEAETETUS
They are indeed.
STRANGER
We have gone through but a very small portion of them, and they are really infinite.
THEAETETUS
If that is the case, we cannot possibly catch the Sophist.
STRANGER
Shall we then be so faint-hearted as to give him up?
THEAETETUS
Certainly not, I should say, if we can get the slightest hold upon him.
STRANGER
Will you then forgive me, and, as your words imply, not be altogether displeased if I flinch a little from the grasp of such a
sturdy argument?
THEAETETUS
To be sure I will.
STRANGER
I have a yet more urgent request to make.
THEAETETUS
Which is—?
STRANGER
That you will promise not to regard me as a parricide.
THEAETETUS
And why?
STRANGER Because, in self-defence, I must test the philosophy of my father Parmenides, and try to prove by main force that in a certain sense
not-being is, and that being, on the other hand, is not.
THEAETETUS
Some attempt of the kind is clearly needed.
STRANGER
Yes, a blind man, as they say, might see that, and, unless these questions are decided in one way or another, no one when he speaks
of false words, or false opinion, or idols, or images, or imitations, or appearances, or about the arts which are concerned with them; can
avoid falling into ridiculous contradictions.
THEAETETUS
Most true.
STRANGER And therefore I must venture to lay hands on my father's argument; for if I am to be over-scrupulous, I shall have to give the
matter up.
THEAETETUS
Nothing in the world should ever induce us to do so.
STRANGER
I have a third little request which I wish to make.
THEAETETUS
What is it?
STRANGER
You heard me say what I have always felt and still feel—that I have no heart for this argument?
THEAETETUS
I did.
STRANGER
I tremble at the thought of what I have said, and expect that you will deem me mad, when you hear of my sudden changes and
shiftings; let me therefore observe, that I am examining the question entirely out of regard for you.
THEAETETUS
There is no reason for you to fear that I shall impute any impropriety to you, if you attempt this refutation and proof; take
heart, therefore, and proceed.
STRANGER
And where shall I begin the perilous enterprise? I think that the road which I must take is—
THEAETETUS
Which?—Let me hear.
STRANGER
I think that we had better, first of all, consider the points which at present are regarded as self-evident, lest we may have fallen
into some confusion, and be too ready to a**ent to one another, fancying that we are quite clear about them.
THEAETETUS
Say more distinctly what you mean.
STRANGER
I think that Parmenides, and all ever yet undertook to determine the number and nature of existences, talked to us in rather a light
and easy strain.
THEAETETUS
How?
STRANGER
As if we had been children, to whom they repeated each his own mythus or story;—one said that there were three principles, and that
at one time there was war between certain of them; and then again there was peace, and they were married and begat children, and brought them
up; and another spoke of two principles,—a moist and a dry, or a hot and a cold, and made them marry and cohabit. The Eleatics, however, in
our part of the world, say that all things are many in name, but in nature one; this is their mythus, which goes back to Xenophanes, and is
even older. Then there are Ionian, and in more recent times Sicilian muses, who have arrived at the conclusion that to unite the two
principles is safer, and to say that being is one and many, and that these are held together by enmity and friendship, ever parting, ever
meeting, as the severer Muses a**ert, while the gentler ones do not insist on the perpetual strife and peace, but admit a relaxation and
alternation of them; peace and unity sometimes prevailing under the sway of Aphrodite, and then again plurality and war, by reason of a
principle of strife. Whether any of them spoke the truth in all this is hard to determine; besides, antiquity and famous men should have
reverence, and not be liable to accusations so serious. Yet one thing may be said of them without offence—
THEAETETUS
What thing?
STRANGER
That they went on their several ways disdaining to notice people like ourselves; they did not care whether they took us with them,
or left us behind them.
THEAETETUS
How do you mean?
STRANGER
I mean to say, that when they talk of one, two, or more elements, which are or have become or are becoming, or again of heat
mingling with cold, a**uming in some other part of their works separations and mixtures,—tell me, Theaetetus, do you understand what they mean
by these expressions? When I was a younger man, I used to fancy that I understood quite well what was meant by the term 'not-being,' which is
our present subject of dispute; and now you see in what a fix we are about it.
THEAETETUS I see.
STRANGER And very likely we have been getting into the same perplexity about 'being,' and yet may fancy that when anybody utters the word, we
understand him quite easily, although we do not know about not-being. But we may be; equally ignorant of both.
THEAETETUS I dare say.
STRANGER And the same may be said of all the terms just mentioned.
THEAETETUS True.
STRANGER The consideration of most of them may be deferred; but we had better now discuss the chief captain and leader of them.
THEAETETUS Of what are you speaking? You clearly think that we must first investigate what people mean by the word 'being.'
STRANGER You follow close at my heels, Theaetetus. For the right method, I conceive, will be to call into our presence the dualistic
philosophers and to interrogate them. 'Come,' we will say, 'Ye, who affirm that hot and cold or any other two principles are the universe,
what is this term which you apply to both of them, and what do you mean when you say that both and each of them "are"? How are we to
understand the word "are"? Upon your view, are we to suppose that there is a third principle over and above the other two,—three in all, and
not two? For clearly you cannot say that one of the two principles is being, and yet attribute being equally to both of them; for, if you did,
whichever of the two is identified with being, will comprehend the other; and so they will be one and not two.'
THEAETETUS Very true.
STRANGER But perhaps you mean to give the name of 'being' to both of them together?
THEAETETUS Quite likely.
STRANGER 'Then, friends,' we shall reply to them, 'the answer is plainly that the two will still be resolved into one.'
THEAETETUS Most true.
STRANGER 'Since, then, we are in a difficulty, please to tell us what you mean, when you speak of being; for there can be no doubt that you
always from the first understood your own meaning, whereas we once thought that we understood you, but now we are in a great strait. Please to
begin by explaining this matter to us, and let us no longer fancy that we understand you, when we entirely misunderstand you.' There will be
no impropriety in our demanding an answer to this question, either of the dualists or of the pluralists?
THEAETETUS Certainly not.
STRANGER And what about the a**ertors of the oneness of the all—must we not endeavour to ascertain from them what they mean by 'being'?
THEAETETUS By all means.
STRANGER Then let them answer this question One, you say, alone is? 'Yes,' they will reply.
THEAETETUS True.
STRANGER And there is something which you call 'being'?
THEAETETUS 'Yes.'
STRANGER And is being the same as one, and do you apply two names to the same thing?
THEAETETUS What will be their answer, Stranger?
STRANGER It is clear, Theaetetus, that he who a**erts the unity of being will find a difficulty in answering this or any other question.
THEAETETUS Why so?
STRANGER To admit of two names, and to affirm that there is nothing but unity, is surely ridiculous?
THEAETETUS Certainly.
STRANGER And equally irrational to admit that a name is anything?
THEAETETUS How so?
STRANGER To distinguish the name from the thing, implies duality.
THEAETETUS Yes.
STRANGER And yet he who identifies the name with the thing will be compelled to say that it is the name of nothing, or if he says that it is
the name of something, even then the name will only be the name of a name, and of nothing else.
THEAETETUS True.
STRANGER And the one will turn out to be only one of one, and being absolute unity, will represent a mere name.
THEAETETUS Certainly.
STRANGER And would they say that the whole is other than the one that is, or the same with it?
THEAETETUS To be sure they would, and they actually say so.
STRANGER If being is a whole, as Parmenides sings,—
'Every way like unto the fullness of a well-rounded sphere, Evenly balanced from the centre on every side, And must needs be neither greater
nor less in any way, Neither on this side nor on that—'
then being has a centre and extremes, and, having these, must also have parts.
THEAETETUS True.
STRANGER Yet that which has parts may have the attribute of unity in all the parts, and in this way being all and a whole, may be one?
THEAETETUS Certainly.
STRANGER But that of which this is the condition cannot be absolute unity?
THEAETETUS Why not?
STRANGER Because, according to right reason, that which is truly one must be affirmed to be absolutely indivisible.
THEAETETUS Certainly.
STRANGER But this indivisible, if made up of many parts, will contradict reason.
THEAETETUS I understand.
STRANGER Shall we say that being is one and a whole, because it has the attribute of unity? Or shall we say that being is not a whole at all?
THEAETETUS That is a hard alternative to offer.
STRANGER Most true; for being, having in a certain sense the attribute of one, is yet proved not to be the same as one, and the all is
therefore more than one.
THEAETETUS Yes.
STRANGER And yet if being be not a whole, through having the attribute of unity, and there be such a thing as an absolute whole, being lacks
something of its own nature?
THEAETETUS Certainly.
STRANGER Upon this view, again, being, having a defect of being, will become not-being?
THEAETETUS True.
STRANGER And, again, the all becomes more than one, for being and the whole will each have their separate nature.
THEAETETUS Yes.
STRANGER But if the whole does not exist at all, all the previous difficulties remain the same, and there will be the further difficulty,
that besides having no being, being can never have come into being.
THEAETETUS Why so?
STRANGER Because that which comes into being always comes into being as a whole, so that he who does not give whole a place among beings,
cannot speak either of essence or generation as existing.
THEAETETUS Yes, that certainly appears to be true.
STRANGER Again; how can that which is not a whole have any quantity? For that which is of a certain quantity must necessarily be the whole of
that quantity.
THEAETETUS Exactly.
STRANGER And there will be innumerable other points, each of them causing infinite trouble to him who says that being is either one or two.
THEAETETUS The difficulties which are dawning upon us prove this; for one objection connects with another, and they are always involving what
has preceded in a greater and worse perplexity.
STRANGER We are far from having exhausted the more exact thinkers who treat of being and not-being. But let us be content to leave them, and
proceed to view those who speak less precisely; and we shall find as the result of all, that the nature of being is quite as difficult to
comprehend as that of not-being.
THEAETETUS Then now we will go to the others.
STRANGER There appears to be a sort of war of Giants and Gods going on amongst them; they are fighting with one another about the nature of
essence.
THEAETETUS How is that?
STRANGER Some of them are dragging down all things from heaven and from the unseen to earth, and they literally grasp in their hands rocks
and oaks; of these they lay hold, and obstinately maintain, that the things only which can be touched or handled have being or essence,
because they define being and body as one, and if any one else says that what is not a body exists they altogether despise him, and will hear
of nothing but body.
THEAETETUS I have often met with such men, and terrible fellows they are.
STRANGER And that is the reason why their opponents cautiously defend themselves from above, out of an unseen world, mightily contending that
true essence consists of certain intelligible and incorporeal ideas; the bodies of the materialists, which by them are maintained to be the
very truth, they break up into little bits by their arguments, and affirm them to be, not essence, but generation and motion. Between the two
armies, Theaetetus, there is always an endless conflict raging concerning these matters.
THEAETETUS True.
STRANGER Let us ask each party in turn, to give an account of that which they call essence.
THEAETETUS How shall we get it out of them?
STRANGER With those who make being to consist in ideas, there will be less difficulty, for they are civil people enough; but there will be
very great difficulty, or rather an absolute impossibility, in getting an opinion out of those who drag everything down to matter. Shall I
tell you what we must do?
THEAETETUS What?
STRANGER Let us, if we can, really improve them; but if this is not possible, let us imagine them to be better than they are, and more
willing to answer in accordance with the rules of argument, and then their opinion will be more worth having; for that which better men
acknowledge has more weight than that which is acknowledged by inferior men. Moreover we are no respecters of persons, but seekers after
truth.
THEAETETUS Very good.
STRANGER Then now, on the supposition that they are improved, let us ask them to state their views, and do you interpret them.
THEAETETUS Agreed.
STRANGER Let them say whether they would admit that there is such a thing as a mortal animal.
THEAETETUS Of course they would.
STRANGER And do they not acknowledge this to be a body having a soul?
THEAETETUS Certainly they do.
STRANGER Meaning to say that the soul is something which exists?
THEAETETUS True.
STRANGER And do they not say that one soul is just, and another unjust, and that one soul is wise, and another foolish?
THEAETETUS Certainly.
STRANGER And that the just and wise soul becomes just and wise by the possession of justice and wisdom, and the opposite under opposite
circumstances?
THEAETETUS Yes, they do.
STRANGER But surely that which may be present or may be absent will be admitted by them to exist?
THEAETETUS Certainly.
STRANGER And, allowing that justice, wisdom, the other virtues, and their opposites exist, as well as a soul in which they inhere, do they
affirm any of them to be visible and tangible, or are they all invisible?
THEAETETUS They would say that hardly any of them are visible.
STRANGER And would they say that they are corporeal?
THEAETETUS They would distinguish the soul would be said by them to have a body; but as to the other qualities of justice, wisdom, and the
like, about which you asked, they would not venture either to deny their existence, or to maintain that they were all corporeal.
STRANGER Verily, Theaetetus, I perceive a great improvement in them; the real aborigines, children of the dragon's teeth, would have been
deterred by no shame at all, but would have obstinately a**erted that nothing is which they are not able to squeeze in their hands.
THEAETETUS That is pretty much their notion.
STRANGER Let us push the question; for if they will admit that any, even the smallest particle of being, is incorporeal, it is enough; they
must then say what that nature is which is common to both the corporeal and incorporeal, and which they have in their mind's eye when they say
of both of them that they 'are.' Perhaps they may be in a difficulty; and if this is the case, there is a possibility that they may accept a
notion of ours respecting the nature of being, having nothing of their own to offer.
THEAETETUS What is the notion? Tell me, and we shall soon see.
STRANGER My notion would be, that anything which possesses any sort of power to affect another, or to be affected by another, if only for a
single moment, however trifling the cause and however slight the effect, has real existence; and I hold that the definition of being is simply
power.
THEAETETUS They accept your suggestion, having nothing better of their own to offer.
STRANGER Very good; perhaps we, as well as they, may one day change our minds; but, for the present, this may be regarded as the
understanding which is established with them.
THEAETETUS Agreed.
STRANGER Let us now go to the friends of ideas; of their opinions, too, you shall be the interpreter.
THEAETETUS I will.
STRANGER To them we say—You would distinguish essence from generation?
THEAETETUS 'Yes,' they reply.
STRANGER And you would allow that we participate in generation with the body, and through perception, but we participate with the soul
through thought in true essence; and essence you would affirm to be always the same and immutable, whereas generation or becoming varies?
THEAETETUS Yes; that is what we should affirm.
STRANGER Well, fair sirs, we say to them, what is this participation, which you a**ert of both? Do you agree with our recent definition?
THEAETETUS What definition?
STRANGER We said that being was an active or pa**ive energy, arising out of a certain power which proceeds from elements meeting with one
another. Perhaps your ears, Theaetetus, may fail to catch their answer, which I recognize because I have been accustomed to hear it.
THEAETETUS And what is their answer?
STRANGER They deny the truth of what we were just now saying to the aborigines about existence.
THEAETETUS What was that?
STRANGER Any power of doing or suffering in a degree however slight was held by us to be a sufficient definition of being?
THEAETETUS True.
STRANGER They deny this, and say that the power of doing or suffering is confined to becoming, and that neither power is applicable to being.
THEAETETUS And is there not some truth in what they say?
STRANGER Yes; but our reply will be, that we want to ascertain from them more distinctly, whether they further admit that the soul knows, and
that being or essence is known.
THEAETETUS There can be no doubt that they say so.
STRANGER And is knowing and being known doing or suffering, or both, or is the one doing and the other suffering, or has neither any share in
either?
THEAETETUS Clearly, neither has any share in either; for if they say anything else, they will contradict themselves.
STRANGER I understand; but they will allow that if to know is active, then, of course, to be known is pa**ive. And on this view being, in so
far as it is known, is acted upon by knowledge, and is therefore in motion; for that which is in a state of rest cannot be acted upon, as we
affirm.
THEAETETUS True.
STRANGER And, O heavens, can we ever be made to believe that motion and life and soul and mind are not present with perfect being? Can we
imagine that being is devoid of life and mind, and exists in awful unmeaningness an everlasting fixture?
THEAETETUS That would be a dreadful thing to admit, Stranger.
STRANGER But shall we say that has mind and not life?
THEAETETUS How is that possible?
STRANGER Or shall we say that both inhere in perfect being, but that it has no soul which contains them?
THEAETETUS And in what other way can it contain them?
STRANGER Or that being has mind and life and soul, but although endowed with soul remains absolutely unmoved?
THEAETETUS All three suppositions appear to me to be irrational.
STRANGER Under being, then, we must include motion, and that which is moved.
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
Then, Theaetetus, our inference is, that if there is no motion, neither is there any mind anywhere, or about anything or belonging
to any one.
THEAETETUS
Quite true.
STRANGER
And yet this equally follows, if we grant that all things are in motion—upon this view too mind has no existence.
THEAETETUS
How so?
STRANGER
Do you think that sameness of condition and mode and subject could ever exist without a principle of rest?
THEAETETUS
Certainly not.
STRANGER
Can you see how without them mind could exist, or come into existence anywhere?
THEAETETUS
No.
STRANGER
And surely contend we must in every possible way against him who would annihilate knowledge and reason and mind, and yet ventures to
speak confidently about anything.
THEAETETUS
Yes, with all our might.
STRANGER
Then the philosopher, who has the truest reverence for these qualities, cannot possibly accept the notion of those who say that the
whole is at rest, either as unity or in many forms and he will be utterly deaf to those who a**ert universal motion. As children say
entreatingly 'Give us both,' so he will include both the moveable and immoveable in his definition of being and all.
THEAETETUS
Most true.
STRANGER
And now, do we seem to have gained a fair notion of being?
THEAETETUS
Yes truly.
STRANGER
Alas, Theaetetus, methinks that we are now only beginning to see the real difficulty of the enquiry into the nature of it.
THEAETETUS
What do you mean?
STRANGER O
my friend, do you not see that nothing can exceed our ignorance, and yet we fancy that we are saying something good?
THEAETETUS
I certainly thought that we were; and I do not at all understand how we never found out our desperate case.
STRANGER
Reflect after having made these admissions, may we not be justly asked the same questions which we ourselves were asking of those
who said that all was hot and cold?
THEAETETUS
What were they? Will you recall them to my mind?
STRANGER
To be sure I will, and I will remind you of them, by putting the same questions to you which I did to them, and then we shall get
on.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
Would you not say that rest and motion are in the most entire opposition to one another?
THEAETETUS
Of course.
STRANGER
And yet you would say that both and either of them equally are?
THEAETETUS
I should.
STRANGER
And when you admit that both or either of them are, do you mean to say that both or either of them are in motion?
THEAETETUS
Certainly not.
STRANGER
Or do you wish to imply that they are both at rest, when you say that they are?
THEAETETUS
Of course not.
STRANGER
Then you conceive of being as some third and distinct nature, under which rest and motion are alike included; and, observing that
they both participate in being, you declare that they are.
THEAETETUS
Truly we seem to have an intimation that being is some third thing, when we say that rest and motion are.
STRANGER
Then being is not the combination of rest and motion, but something different from them.
THEAETETUS
So it would appear.
STRANGER Being, then, according to its own nature, is neither in motion nor at rest.
THEAETETUS That is very much the truth.
STRANGER Where, then, is a man to look for help who would have any clear or fixed notion of being in his mind?
THEAETETUS Where, indeed?
STRANGER I scarcely think that he can look anywhere; for that which is not in motion must be at rest, and again, that which is not at rest
must be in motion; but being is placed outside of both these cla**es. Is this possible?
THEAETETUS Utterly impossible.
STRANGER Here, then, is another thing which we ought to bear in mind.
THEAETETUS What?
STRANGER When we were asked to what we were to a**ign the appellation of not-being, we were in the greatest difficulty—do you remember?
THEAETETUS To be sure.
STRANGER And are we not now in as great a difficulty about being?
THEAETETUS I should say, Stranger, that we are in one which is, if possible, even greater.
STRANGER Then let us acknowledge the difficulty; and as being and not-being are involved in the same perplexity, there is hope that when the
one appears more or less distinctly, the other will equally appear; and if we are able to see neither, there may still be a chance of steering
our way in
between them, without any great discredit.
THEAETETUS
Very good.
STRANGER
Let us enquire, then, how we come to predicate many names of the same thing.
THEAETET
US Give an example.
STRANGER
I mean that we speak of man, for example, under many names—that we attribute to him colours and forms and magnitudes and virtues and
vices, in all of which instances and in ten thousand others we not only speak of him as a man, but also as good, and having numberless other
attributes, and in the same way anything else which we originally supposed to be one is des
cribed by us as many, and under many names.
THEAETETUS
That is true.
STRANGER
And thus we provide a rich feast for tyros, whether young or old; for there is nothing easier than to argue that the one cannot be
many, or the many one; and great is their delight in denying that a man is good; for man, they insist, is man and good is good. I dare say
that you have met with persons who take an interest in such matters—they are often elderly men, whose meagre sense is thrown into amazement by
these discoveries of theirs, which they believe to be the height of wisdom.
THEAETETUS
Certainly, I have.
STRANGER
Then, not to exclude any one who has ever speculated at all upon the nature of being, let us put our questions to them as well as to
our former friends.
THEAETETUS
What questions?
STRANGER
Shall we refuse to attribute being to motion and rest, or anything to anything, and a**ume that they do not mingle, and are
incapable of participating in one another? Or shall we gather all into one cla** of things communicable with one another? Or are some things
communicable and others not?—Which of these alternatives, Theaetetus, will they prefer?
THEAETETUS
I have nothing to answer on their behalf. Suppose that you take all these hypotheses in turn, and see what are the consequences
which follow from each of them.
STRANGER
Very good, and first let us a**ume them to say that nothing is capable of participating in anything else in any respect; in that
case rest and motion cannot participate in being at all.
THEAETETUS
They cannot.
STRANGER
But would either of them be if not participating in being?
THEAETETUS
No.
STRANGER
Then by this admission everything is instantly overturned, as well the doctrine of universal motion as of universal rest, and also
the doctrine of those who distribute being into immutable and everlasting kinds; for all these add on a notion of being, some affirming that
things 'are' truly in motion, and others that they 'are' truly at rest.
THEAETETUS
Just so.
STRANGER
Again, those who would at one time compound, and at another resolve all things, whether making them into one and out of one creating
infinity, or dividing them into finite elements, and forming compounds out of these; whether they suppose the processes of creation to be
successive or continuous, would be talking nonsense in all this if there were no admixture.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
Most ridiculous of all will the men themselves be who want to carry out the argument and yet forbid us to call anything, because
participating in some affection from another, by the name of that other.
THEAETETUS
Why so?
STRANGER
Why, because they are compelled to use the words 'to be,' 'apart,' 'from others,' 'in itself,' and ten thousand more, which they
cannot give up, but must make the connecting links of discourse; and therefore they do not require to be refuted by others, but their enemy,
as the saying is, inhabits the same house with them; they are always carrying about with them an adversary, like the wonderful ventriloquist,
Eurycles, who out of their own bellies audibly contradicts them.
THEAETETUS
Precisely so; a very true and exact illustration.
STRANGER
And now, if we suppose that all things have the power of communion with one another—what will follow?
THEAETETUS
Even I can solve that riddle.
STRANGER
How?
THEAETETUS
Why, because motion itself would be at rest, and rest again in motion, if they could be attributed to one another.
STRANGER
But this is utterly impossible.
THEAETETUS
Of course.
STRANGER
Then only the third hypothesis remains.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
For, surely, either all things have communion with all; or nothing with any other thing; or some things communicate with some things
and others not.
THEAETETUS Certainly.
STRANGER And two out of these three suppositions have been found to be impossible.
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
Every one then, who desires to answer truly, will adopt the third and remaining hypothesis of the communion of some with some.
THEAETETUS
Quite true.
STRANGER
This communion of some with some may be illustrated by the case of letters; for some letters do not fit each other, while others do.
THEAETETUS
Of course.
STRANGER
And the vowels, especially, are a sort of bond which pervades all the other letters, so that without a vowel one consonant cannot be
joined to another.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
But does every one know what letters will unite with what? Or is art required in order to do so?
THEAETETUS
Art is required.
STRANGER
What art?
THEAETETUS
The art of grammar.
STRANGER And is not this also true of sounds high and low?—Is not he who has the art to know what sounds mingle, a musician, and he who is
ignorant, not a musician?
THEAETETUS Yes.
STRANGER And we shall find this to be generally true of art or the absence of art.
THEAETETUS Of course.
STRANGER
And as cla**es are admitted by us in like manner to be some of them capable and others incapable of intermixture, must not he who
would rightly show what kinds will unite and what will not, proceed by the help of science in the path of argument? And will he not ask if the
connecting links are universal, and so capable of intermixture with all things; and again, in divisions, whether there are not other universal
cla**es, which make them possible?
THEAETETUS
To be sure he will require science, and, if I am not mistaken, the very greatest of all sciences.
STRANGER
How are we to call it? By Zeus, have we not lighted unwittingly upon our free and noble science, and in looking for the Sophist have
we not entertained the philosopher unawares?
THEAETETUS
What do you mean?
STRANGER
Should we not say that the division according to cla**es, which neither makes the same other, nor makes other the same, is the
business of the dialectical science?
THEAETETUS
That is what we should say.
STRANGER
Then, surely, he who can divide rightly is able to see clearly one form pervading a scattered multitude, and many different forms
contained under one higher form; and again, one form knit together into a single whole and pervading many such wholes, and many forms,
existing only in separation and isolation. This is the knowledge of cla**es which determines where they can have communion with one another
and where not.
THEAETETUS
Quite true.
STRANGER
And the art of dialectic would be attributed by you only to the philosopher pure and true?
THEAETETUS
Who but he can be worthy?
STRANGER
In this region we shall always discover the philosopher, if we look for him; like the Sophist, he is not easily discovered, but for
a different reason.
THEAETET
US For what reason?
STRANGER
Because the Sophist runs away into the darkness of not-being, in which he has learned by habit to feel about, and cannot be
discovered because of the darkness of the place. Is not that true?
THEAETETUS
It seems to be so.
STRANGER
And the philosopher, always holding converse through reason with the idea of being, is also dark from excess of light; for the souls
of the many have no eye which can endure the vision of the divine.
THEAETETUS
Yes; that seems to be quite as true as the other.
STRANGER
Well, the philosopher may hereafter be more fully considered by us, if we are disposed; but the Sophist must clearly not be allowed
to escape until we have had a good look at him.
THEAETETUS
Very good.
STRANGER
Since, then, we are agreed that some cla**es have a communion with one another, and others not, and some have communion with a few
and others with many, and that there is no reason why some should not have universal communion with all, let us now pursue the enquiry, as the
argument suggests, not in relation to all ideas, lest the multitude of them should confuse us, but let us select a few of those which are
reckoned to be the principal ones, and consider their several natures and their capacity of communion with one another, in order that if we
are not able to apprehend with perfect clearness the notions of being and not-being, we may at least not fall short in the consideration of
them, so far as they come within the scope of the present enquiry, if peradventure we may be allowed to a**ert the reality of not-being, and
yet escape unscathed.
THEAETETUS
We must do so.
STRANGER
The most important of all the genera are those which we were just now mentioning—being and rest and motion.
THEAETETUS
Yes, by far.
STRANGER
And two of these are, as we affirm, incapable of communion with one another.
THEAETETUS
Quite incapable.
STRANGER
Whereas being surely has communion with both of them, for both of them are?
THEAETETUS
Of course.
STRANGER
That makes up three of them.
THEAETETUS
To be sure.
STRANGER
And each of them is other than the remaining two, but the same with itself.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
But then, what is the meaning of these two words, 'same' and 'other'? Are they two new kinds other than the three, and yet always of
necessity intermingling with them, and are we to have five kinds instead of three; or when we speak of the same and other, are we
unconsciously speaking of one of the three first kinds?
THEAETETUS
Very likely we are.
STRANGER But, surely, motion and rest are neither the other nor the same.
THEAETETUS
How is that?
STRANGER
Whatever we attribute to motion and rest in common, cannot be either of them.
THEAETETUS
Why not?
STRANGER
Because motion would be at rest and rest in motion, for either of them, being predicated of both, will compel the other to change
into the opposite of its own nature, because partaking of its opposite.
THEAETETUS
Quite true.
STRANGER
they surely both partake of the same and of the other?
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
Then we must not a**ert that motion, any more than rest, is either the same or the other.
THEAETETUS
No; we must not.
STRANGER
But are we to conceive that being and the same are identical?
THEAETETUS
Possibly.
STRANGER
But if they are identical, then again in saying that motion and rest have being, we should also be saying that they are the same.
THEAETETUS
Which surely cannot be.
STRANGER
Then being and the same cannot be one.
THEAETETUS Scarcely.
STRANGER
Then we may suppose the same to be a fourth cla**, which is now to be added to the three others.
THEAETETUS
Quite true.
STRANGER
And shall we call the other a fifth cla**? Or should we consider being and other to be two names of the same cla**?
THEAETETUS
Very likely.
STRANGER
But you would agree, if I am not mistaken, that existences are relative as well as absolute?
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
And the other is always relative to other?
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
But this would not be the case unless being and the other entirely differed; for, if the other, like being, were absolute as well as
relative, then there would have been a kind of other which was not other than other. And now we find that what is other must of necessity be
what it is in relation to some other.
THEAETETUS
That is the true state of the case.
STRANGER
Then we must admit the other as the fifth of our selected cla**es.
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER And the fifth cla** pervades all cla**es, for they all differ from one another, not by reason of their own nature, but because they
partake of the idea of the other.
THEAETETUS
Quite true.
STRANGER
Then let us now put the case with reference to each of the five.
THEAETETUS
How?
STRANGER
First there is motion, which we affirm to be absolutely 'other' than rest what else can we say?
THEAETETUS
It is so.
STRANGER
And therefore is not rest.
THEAETETUS
Certainly not.
STRANGER
And yet is, because partaking of being.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
Again, motion is other than the same?
THEAETETUS
Just so.
STRANGER
And is therefore not the same.
THEAETETUS
It is not.
STRANGER
Yet, surely, motion is the same, because all things partake of the same.
THEAETETUS
Very true.
STRANGER
Then we must admit, and not object to say, that motion is the same and is not the same, for we do not apply the terms 'same' and
'not the same,' in the same sense; but we call it the 'same,' in relation to itself, because partaking of the same; and not the same, because
having communion with the other, it is thereby severed from the same, and has become not that but other, and is therefore rightly spoken of as
'not the same.'
THEAETETUS
To be sure.
STRANGER
And if absolute motion in any point of view partook of rest, there would be no absurdity in calling motion stationary.
THEAETETUS
Quite right,—that is, on the supposition that some cla**es mingle with one another, and others not.
STRANGER
That such a communion of kinds is according to nature, we had already proved before we arrived at this part of our discussion.
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
Let us proceed, then. May we not say that motion is other than the other, having been also proved by us to be other than the same
and other than rest?
THEAETETUS
That is certain.
STRANGER
Then, according to this view, motion is other and also not other?
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
What is the next step? Shall we say that motion is other than the three and not other than the fourth,—for we agreed that there are
five cla**es about and in the sphere of which we proposed to make enquiry?
THEAETETUS
Surely we cannot admit that the number is less than it appeared to be just now.
STRANGER
Then we may without fear contend that motion is other than being?
THEAETETUS
Without the least fear.
STRANGER
The plain result is that motion, since it partakes of being, really is and also is not?
THEAETETUS
Nothing can be plainer.
STRANGER
Then not-being necessarily exists in the case of motion and of every cla**; for the nature of the other entering into them all,
makes each of them other than being, and so non-existent; and therefore of all of them, in like manner, we may truly say that they are not;
and again, inasmuch as they partake of being, that they are and are existent.
THEAETETUS
So we may a**ume.
STRANGER
Every cla**, then, has plurality of being and infinity of not-being.
THEAETETUS
So we must infer.
STRANGER
And being itself may be said to be other than the other kinds.
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
Then we may infer that being is not, in respect of as many other things as there are; for not-being these it is itself one, and is
not the other things, which are infinite in number.
THEAETETUS
That is not far from the truth.
STRANGER
And we must not quarrel with this result, since it is of the nature of cla**es to have communion with one another; and if any one
denies our present statement [viz., that being is not, etc.], let him first argue with our former conclusion [i.e., respecting the communion
of ideas], and then he may proceed to argue with what follows.
THEAETETUS
Nothing can be fairer.
STRANGER
Let me ask you to consider a further question.
THEAETETUS
What question?
STRANGER
When we speak of not-being, we speak, I suppose, not of something opposed to being, but only different.
THEAETETUS
What do you mean?
STRANGER
When we speak of something as not great, does the expression seem to you to imply what is little any more than what is equal?
THEAETETUS
Certainly not.
STRANGER
The negative particles, ou and me, when prefixed to words, do not imply opposition, but only difference from the words, or more
correctly from the things represented by the words, which follow them.
THEAETETUS
Quite true.
STRANGER
There is another point to be considered, if you do not object.
THEAETETUS
What is it?
STRANGER
The nature of the other appears to me to be divided into fractions like knowledge.
THEAETETUS
How so?
STRANGER
Knowledge, like the other, is one; and yet the various parts of knowledge have each of them their own particular name, and hence
there are many arts and kinds of knowledge.
THEAETETUS
Quite true.
STRANGER
And is not the case the same with the parts of the other, which is also one?
THEAETETUS
Very likely; but will you tell me how?
STRANGER
There is some part of the other which is opposed to the beautiful?
THEAETETUS
There is.
STRANGER
Shall we say that this has or has not a name?
THEAETETUS
It has; for whatever we call not-beautiful is other than the beautiful, not than something else.
STRANGER
And now tell me another thing.
THEAETETUS
What?
STRANGER
Is the not-beautiful anything but this—an existence parted off from a certain kind of existence, and again from another point of
view opposed to an existing something?
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
Then the not-beautiful turns out to be the opposition of being to being?
THEAETETUS
Very true.
STRANGER
But upon this view, is the beautiful a more real and the not-beautiful a less real existence?
THEAETETUS
Not at all.
STRANGER
And the not-great may be said to exist, equally with the great?
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And, in the same way, the just must be placed in the same category with the not-just—the one cannot be said to have any more
existence than the other.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
The same may be said of other things; seeing that the nature of the other has a real existence, the parts of this nature must
equally be supposed to exist.
THEAETETUS
Of course.
STRANGER
Then, as would appear, the opposition of a part of the other, and of a part of being, to one another, is, if I may venture to say
so, as truly essence as being itself, and implies not the opposite of being, but only what is other than being.
THEAETETUS
Beyond question.
STRANGER
What then shall we call it?
THEAETETUS
Clearly, not-being; and this is the very nature for which the Sophist compelled us to search.
STRANGER
And has not this, as you were saying, as real an existence as any other cla**? May I not say with confidence that not-being has an
a**ured existence, and a nature of its own? Just as the great was found to be great and the beautiful beautiful, and the not-great not-great,
and the not-beautiful not-beautiful, in the same manner not-being has been found to be and is not-being, and is to be reckoned one among the
many cla**es of being. Do you, Theaetetus, still feel any doubt of this?
THEAETETUS
None whatever.
STRANGER
Do you observe that our scepticism has carried us beyond the range of Parmenides' prohibition?
THEAETETUS
In what?
STRANGER
We have advanced to a further point, and shown him more than he forbad us to investigate.
THEAETETUS
How is that?
STRANGER
Why, because he says—
'Not-being never is, and do thou keep thy thoughts from this way of enquiry.'
THEAETETUS
Yes, he says so.
STRANGER
Whereas, we have not only proved that things which are not are, but we have shown what form of being not-being is; for we have shown
that the nature of the other is, and is distributed over all things in their relations to one another, and whatever part of the other is
contrasted with being, this is precisely what we have ventured to call not-being.
THEAETETUS
And surely, Stranger, we were quite right.
STRANGER
Let not any one say, then, that while affirming the opposition of not-being to being, we still a**ert the being of not-being; for as
to whether there is an opposite of being, to that enquiry we have long said good-bye—it may or may not be, and may or may not be capable of
definition. But as touching our present account of not-being, let a man either convince us of error, or, so long as he cannot, he too must
say, as we are saying, that there is a communion of cla**es, and that being, and difference or other, traverse all things and mutually
interpenetrate, so that the other partakes of being, and by reason of this participation is, and yet is not that of which it partakes, but
other, and being other than being, it is clearly a necessity that not-being should be. And again, being, through partaking of the other,
becomes a cla** other than the remaining cla**es, and being other than all of them, is not each one of them, and is not all the rest, so that
undoubtedly there are thousands upon thousands of cases in which being is not, and all other things, whether regarded individually or
collectively, in many respects are, and in many respects are not.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And he who is sceptical of this contradiction, must think how he can find something better to say; or if he sees a puzzle, and his
pleasure is to drag words this way and that, the argument will prove to him, that he is not making a worthy use of his faculties; for there is
no charm in such puzzles, and there is no difficulty in detecting them; but we can tell him of something else the pursuit of which is noble
and also difficult.
THEAETETUS
What is it?
STRANGER
A thing of which I have already spoken;—letting alone these puzzles as involving no difficulty, he should be able to follow and
criticize in detail every argument, and when a man says that the same is in a manner other, or that other is the same, to understand and
refute him from his own point of view, and in the same respect in which he a**erts either of these affections. But to show that somehow and in
some sense the same is other, or the other same, or the great small, or the like unlike; and to delight in always bringing forward such
contradictions, is no real refutation, but is clearly the new-born babe of some one who is only beginning to approach the problem of being.
THEAETETUS
To be sure.
STRANGER
For certainly, my friend, the attempt to separate all existences from one another is a barbarism and utterly unworthy of an educated
or philosophical mind.
THEAETETUS
Why so?
STRANGER
The attempt at universal separation is the final annihilation of all reasoning; for only by the union of conceptions with one
another do we attain to discourse of reason.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And, observe that we were only just in time in making a resistance to such separatists, and compelling them to admit that one thing
mingles with another.
THEAETETUS
Why so?
STRANGER
Why, that we might be able to a**ert discourse to be a kind of being; for if we could not, the worst of all consequences would
follow; we should have no philosophy. Moreover, the necessity for determining the nature of discourse presses upon us at this moment; if
utterly deprived of it, we could no more hold discourse; and deprived of it we should be if we admitted that there was no admixture of natures at all.
THEAETETUS
Very true. But I do not understand why at this moment we must determine the nature of discourse.
STRANGER
Perhaps you will see more clearly by the help of the following explanation.
THEAETETUS
What explanation?
STRANGER
Not-being has been acknowledged by us to be one among many cla**es diffused over all being.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And thence arises the question, whether not-being mingles with opinion and language.
THEAETETUS
How so?
STRANGER
If not-being has no part in the proposition, then all things must be true; but if not-being has a part, then false opinion and false
speech are possible, for to think or to say what is not—is falsehood, which thus arises in the region of thought and in speech.
THEAETETUS
That is quite true.
STRANGER
And where there is falsehood surely there must be deceit.
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And if there is deceit, then all things must be full of idols and images and fancies.
THEAETETUS
To be sure.
STRANGER
Into that region the Sophist, as we said, made his escape, and, when he had got there, denied the very possibility of falsehood; no
one, he argued, either conceived or uttered falsehood, inasmuch as not-being did not in any way partake of being.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And now, not-being has been shown to partake of being, and therefore he will not continue fighting in this direction, but he will
probably say that some ideas partake of not-being, and some not, and that language and opinion are of the non-partaking cla**; and he will
still fight to the d**h against the existence of the image-making and phantastic art, in which we have placed him, because, as he will say,
opinion and language do not partake of not-being, and unless this participation exists, there can be no such thing as falsehood. And, with the
view of meeting this evasion, we must begin by enquiring into the nature of language, opinion, and imagination, in order that when we find
them we may find also that they have communion with not-being, and, having made out the connexion of them, may thus prove that falsehood
exists; and therein we will imprison the Sophist, if he deserves it, or, if not, we will let him go again and look for him in another cla**.
THEAETETUS
Certainly, Stranger, there appears to be truth in what was said about the Sophist at first, that he was of a cla** not easily
caught, for he seems to have abundance of defences, which he throws up, and which must every one of them be stormed before we can reach the
man himself. And even now, we have with difficulty got through his first defence, which is the not-being of not-being, and lo! here is
another; for we have still to show that falsehood exists in the sphere of language and opinion, and there will be another and another line of
defence without end.
STRANGER
Any one, Theaetetus, who is able to advance even a little ought to be of good cheer, for what would he who is dispirited at a little
progress do, if he were making none at all, or even undergoing a repulse? Such a faint heart, as the proverb says, will never take a city but
now that we have succeeded thus far, the citadel is ours, and what remains is easier.
THEAETETUS
Very true.
STRANGER
Then, as I was saying, let us first of all obtain a conception of language and opinion, in order that we may have clearer grounds
for determining, whether not-being has any concern with them, or whether they are both always true, and neither of them ever false.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
Then, now, let us speak of names, as before we were speaking of ideas and letters; for that is the direction in which the answer may
be expected.
THEAETETUS
And what is the question at issue about names?
STRANGER
The question at issue is whether all names may be connected with one another, or none, or only some of them.
THEAETETUS
Clearly the last is true.
STRANGER
I understand you to say that words which have a meaning when in sequence may be connected, but that words which have no meaning when
in sequence cannot be connected?
THEAETETUS
What are you saying?
STRANGER
What I thought that you intended when you gave your a**ent; for there are two sorts of intimation of being which are given by the
voice.
THEAETETUS
What are they?
STRANGER
One of them is called nouns, and the other verbs.
THEAETETUS
Describe them.
STRANGER That which denotes action we call a verb.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And the other, which is an articulate mark set on those who do the actions, we call a noun.
THEAETETUS
Quite true.
STRANGER
A succession of nouns only is not a sentence, any more than of verbs without nouns.
THEAETETUS
I do not understand you.
STRANGER
I see that when you gave your a**ent you had something else in your mind. But what I intended to say was, that a mere succession of
nouns or of verbs is not discourse.
THEAETETUS
What do you mean?
STRANGER
I mean that words like 'walks,' 'runs,' 'sleeps,' or any other words which denote action, however many of them you string together,
do not make discourse.
THEAETETUS
How can they?
STRANGER
Or, again, when you say 'lion,' 'stag,' 'horse,' or any other words which denote agents—neither in this way of stringing words
together do you attain to discourse; for there is no expression of action or inaction, or of the existence of existence or non-existence
indicated by the sounds, until verbs are mingled with nouns; then the words fit, and the smallest combination of them forms language, and is
the simplest and least form of discourse.
THEAETETUS
Again I ask, What do you mean?
STRANGER
When any one says 'A man learns,' should you not call this the simplest and least of sentences?
THEAETETUS Yes.
STRANGER Yes, for he now arrives at the point of giving an intimation about something which is, or is becoming, or has become, or will be.
And he not only names, but he does something, by connecting verbs with nouns; and therefore we say that he discourses, and to this connexion
of words we give the name of discourse.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And as there are some things which fit one another, and other things which do not fit, so there are some vocal signs which do, and
others which do not, combine and form discourse.
THEAETETUS
Quite true.
STRANGER
There is another small matter.
THEAETETUS
What is it?
STRANGER
A sentence must and cannot help having a subject.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And must be of a certain quality.
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
And now let us mind what we are about.
THEAETETUS
We must do so.
STRANGER
I will repeat a sentence to you in which a thing and an action are combined, by the help of a noun and a verb; and you shall tell me
of whom the sentence speaks.
THEAETETUS
I will, to the best of my power.
STRANGER
'Theaetetus sits'—not a very long sentence.
THEAETETUS
Not very.
STRANGER
Of whom does the sentence speak, and who is the subject? that is what you have to tell.
THEAETETUS
Of me; I am the subject.
STRANGER
Or this sentence, again—
THEAETETUS
What sentence?
STRANGER
'Theaetetus, with whom I am now speaking, is flying.'
THEAETETUS
That also is a sentence which will be admitted by every one to speak of me, and to apply to me.
STRANGER
We agreed that every sentence must necessarily have a certain quality.
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And what is the quality of each of these two sentences?
THEAETETUS
The one, as I imagine, is false, and the other true.
STRANGER
The true says what is true about you?
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And the false says what is other than true?
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And therefore speaks of things which are not as if they were?
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And say that things are real of you which are not; for, as we were saying, in regard to each thing or person, there is much that is
and much that is not.
THEAETETUS
Quite true.
STRANGER
The second of the two sentences which related to you was first of all an example of the shortest form consistent with our
definition.
THEAETETUS
Yes, this was implied in recent admission.
STRANGER
And, in the second place, it related to a subject?
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
Who must be you, and can be nobody else?
THEAETETUS
Unquestionably.
STRANGER
And it would be no sentence at all if there were no subject, for, as we proved, a sentence which has no subject is impossible.
THEAETETUS
Quite true.
STRANGER
When other, then, is a**erted of you as the same, and not-being as being, such a combination of nouns and verbs is really and truly
false discourse.
THEAETETUS
Most true.
STRANGER
And therefore thought, opinion, and imagination are now proved to exist in our minds both as true and false.
THEAETETUS
How so?
STRANGER You will know better if you first gain a knowledge of what they are, and in what they severally differ from one another.
THEAETETUS Give me the knowledge which you would wish me to gain.
STRANGER Are not thought and speech the same, with this exception, that what is called thought is the unuttered conversation of the soul with
herself?
THEAETETUS Quite true.
STRANGER But the stream of thought which flows through the lips and is audible is called speech?
THEAETETUS True.
STRANGER And we know that there exists in speech...
THEAETETUS
What exists?
STRANGER
Affirmation.
THEAETETUS
Yes, we know it.
STRANGER
When the affirmation or denial takes Place in silence and in the mind only, have you any other name by which to call it but opinion?
THEAETETUS
There can be no other name.
STRANGER
And when opinion is presented, not simply, but in some form of sense, would you not call it imagination?
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
And seeing that language is true and false, and that thought is the conversation of the soul with herself, and opinion is the end of
thinking, and imagination or phantasy is the union of sense and opinion, the inference is that some of them, since they are akin to language,
should have an element of falsehood as well as of truth?
THEAETETUS
Certainly.
STRANGER
Do you perceive, then, that false opinion and speech have been discovered sooner than we expected?—For just now we seemed to be
undertaking a task which would never be accomplished.
THEAETETUS
I perceive.
STRANGER
Then let us not be discouraged about the future; but now having made this discovery, let us go back to our previous cla**ification.
THEAETETUS
What cla**ification?
STRANGER
We divided image-making into two sorts; the one likeness-making, the other imaginative or phantastic.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And we said that we were uncertain in which we should place the Sophist.
THEAETETUS
We did say so.
STRANGER
And our heads began to go round more and more when it was a**erted that there is no such thing as an image or idol or appearance,
because in no manner or time or place can there ever be such a thing as falsehood.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And now, since there has been shown to be false speech and false opinion, there may be imitations of real existences, and out of
this condition of the mind an art of deception may arise.
THEAETETUS
Quite possible.
STRANGER
And we have already admitted, in what preceded, that the Sophist was lurking in one of the divisions of the likeness-making art?
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
Let us, then, renew the attempt, and in dividing any cla**, always take the part to the right, holding fast to that which holds the
Sophist, until we have stripped him of all his common properties, and reached his difference or peculiar. Then we may exhibit him in his true
nature, first to ourselves and then to kindred dialectical spirits.
THEAETETUS
Very good.
STRANGER
You may remember that all art was originally divided by us into creative and acquisitive.
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And the Sophist was flitting before us in the acquisitive cla**, in the subdivisions of hunting, contests, merchandize, and the
like.
THEAETETUS
Very true.
STRANGER
But now that the imitative art has enclosed him, it is clear that we must begin by dividing the art of creation; for imitation is a
kind of creation—of images, however, as we affirm, and not of real things.
THEAETETUS
Quite true.
STRANGER
In the first place, there are two kinds of creation.
THEAETETUS
What are they?
STRANGER
One of them is human and the other divine.
THEAETETUS
I do not follow.
STRANGER
Every power, as you may remember our saying originally, which causes things to exist, not previously existing, was defined by us as
creative.
THEAETETUS
I remember.
STRANGER
Looking, now, at the world and all the animals and plants, at things which grow upon the earth from seeds and roots, as well as at
inanimate substances which are formed within the earth, fusile or non-fusile, shall we say that they come into existence—not having existed
previously—by the creation of God, or shall we agree with vulgar opinion about them?
THEAETETUS
What is it?
STRANGER
The opinion that nature brings them into being from some spontaneous and unintelligent cause. Or shall we say that they are created
by a divine reason and a knowledge which comes from God?
THEAETETUS
I dare say that, owing to my youth, I may often waver in my view, but now when I look at you and see that you incline to refer
them to God, I defer to your authority.
STRANGER
Nobly said, Theaetetus, and if I thought that you were one of those who would hereafter change your mind, I would have gently argued
with you, and forced you to a**ent; but as I perceive that you will come of yourself and without any argument of mine, to that belief which,
as you say, attracts you, I will not forestall the work of time. Let me suppose, then, that things which are said to be made by nature are the
work of divine art, and that things which are made by man out of these are works of human art. And so there are two kinds of making and
production, the one human and the other divine.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
Then, now, subdivide each of the two sections which we have already.
THEAETETUS
How do you mean?
STRANGER
I mean to say that you should make a vertical division of production or invention, as you have already made a lateral one.
THEAETETUS
I have done so.
STRANGER
Then, now, there are in all four parts or segments—two of them have reference to us and are human, and two of them have reference to
the gods and are divine.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And, again, in the division which was supposed to be made in the other way, one part in each subdivision is the making of the things
themselves, but the two remaining parts may be called the making of likenesses; and so the productive art is again divided into two parts.
THEAETETUS
Tell me the divisions once more.
STRANGER
I suppose that we, and the other animals, and the elements out of which things are made—fire, water, and the like—are known by us to
be each and all the creation and work of God.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
And there are images of them, which are not them, but which correspond to them; and these are also the creation of a wonderful
sk**.
THEAETETUS
What are they?
STRANGER
The appearances which spring up of themselves in sleep or by day, such as a shadow when darkness arises in a fire, or the reflection
which is produced when the light in bright and smooth objects meets on their surface with an external light, and creates a perception the
opposite of our ordinary sight.
THEAETETUS
Yes; and the images as well as the creation are equally the work of a divine hand.
STRANGER
And what shall we say of human art? Do we not make one house by the art of building, and another by the art of drawing, which is a
sort of dream created by man for those who are awake?
THEAETETUS
Quite true.
STRANGER
And other products of human creation are also twofold and go in pairs; there is the thing, with which the art of making the thing is
concerned, and the image, with which imitation is concerned.
THEAETETUS
Now I begin to understand, and am ready to acknowledge that there are two kinds of production, and each of them twofold; in the
lateral division there is both a divine and a human production; in the vertical there are realities and a creation of a kind of similitudes.
STRANGER
And let us not forget that of the imitative cla** the one part was to have been likeness-making, and the other phantastic, if it
could be shown that falsehood is a reality and belongs to the cla** of real being.
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
And this appeared to be the case; and therefore now, without hesitation, we shall number the different kinds as two.
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
Then, now, let us again divide the phantastic art.
THEAETETUS
Where shall we make the division?
STRANGER
There is one kind which is produced by an instrument, and another in which the creator of the appearance is himself the instrument.
THEAETETUS
What do you mean?
STRANGER
When any one makes himself appear like another in his figure or his voice, imitation is the name for this part of the phantastic
art.
THEAETETUS
Yes.
STRANGER
Let this, then, be named the art of mimicry, and this the province a**igned to it; as for the other division, we are weary and will
give that up, leaving to some one else the duty of making the cla** and giving it a suitable name.
THEAETETUS
Let us do as you say—a**ign a sphere to the one and leave the other.
STRANGER
There is a further distinction, Theaetetus, which is worthy of our consideration, and for a reason which I will tell you.
THEAETETUS
Let me hear.
STRANGER
There are some who imitate, knowing what they imitate, and some who do not know. And what line of distinction can there possibly be
greater than that which divides ignorance from knowledge?
THEAETETUS
There can be no greater.
STRANGER
Was not the sort of imitation of which we spoke just now the imitation of those who know? For he who would imitate you would surely
know you and your figure?
THEAETETUS
Naturally.
STRANGER
And what would you say of the figure or form of justice or of virtue in general? Are we not well aware that many, having no
knowledge of either, but only a sort of opinion, do their best to show that this opinion is really entertained by them, by expressing it, as
far as they can, in word and deed?
THEAETETUS
Yes, that is very common.
STRANGER
And do they always fail in their attempt to be thought just, when they are not? Or is not the very opposite true?
THEAETETUS The very opposite.
STRANGER
Such a one, then, should be described as an imitator—to be distinguished from the other, as he who is ignorant is distinguished from
him who knows?
THEAETETUS
True.
STRANGER
Can we find a suitable name for each of them? This is clearly not an easy task; for among the ancients there was some confusion of
ideas, which prevented them from attempting to divide genera into species; wherefore there is no great abundance of names. Yet, for the sake
of distinctness, I will make bold to call the imitation which coexists with opinion, the imitation of appearance—that which coexists with
science, a scientific or learned imitation.
THEAETETUS Granted.
STRANGER The former is our present concern, for the Sophist was cla**ed with imitators indeed, but not among those who have knowledge.
THEAETETUS Very true.
STRANGER Let us, then, examine our imitator of appearance, and see whether he is sound, like a piece of iron, or whether there is still some
crack in him.
THEAETETUS Let us examine him.
STRANGER Indeed there is a very considerable crack; for if you look, you find that one of the two cla**es of imitators is a simple creature,
who thinks that he knows that which he only fancies; the other sort has knocked about among arguments, until he suspects and fears that he is
ignorant of that which to the many he pretends to know.
THEAETETUS
There are certainly the two kinds which you describe.
STRANGER
Shall we regard one as the simple imitator—the other as the dissembling or ironical imitator?
THEAETETUS
Very good.
STRANGER
And shall we further speak of this latter cla** as having one or two divisions?
THEAETETUS
Answer yourself.
STRANGER
Upon consideration, then, there appear to me to be two; there is the dissembler, who harangues a multitude in public in a long
speech, and the dissembler, who in private and in short speeches compels the person who is conversing with him to contradict himself.
THEAETETUS
What you say is most true.
STRANGER
And who is the maker of the longer speeches? Is he the statesman or the popular orator?
THEAETETUS
The latter.
STRANGER
And what shall we call the other? Is he the philosopher or the Sophist?
THEAETETUS
The philosopher he cannot be, for upon our view he is ignorant; but since he is an imitator of the wise he will have a name which
is formed by an adaptation of the word sophos. What shall we name him? I am pretty sure that I cannot be mistaken in terming him the true and
very Sophist.
STRANGER
Shall we bind up his name as we did before, making a chain from one end of his genealogy to the other?
THEAETETUS
By all means.
STRANGER
He, then, who traces the pedigree of his art as follows—who, belonging to the conscious or dissembling section of the art of causing
self-contradiction, is an imitator of appearance, and is separated from the cla** of phantastic which is a branch of image-making into that
further division of creation, the juggling of words, a creation human, and not divine—any one who affirms the real Sophist to be of this blood
and lineage will say the very truth.
THEAETETUS
Undoubtedl