[2Pac]: Okay, basically all throughout being black in America we always had [?] non-violent, peaceful, logical and more sane than every other race you know we could never take the stands which is our true stands to be straight soldiers, straight warriors until hip hop came when hardcore hip hop came, it was all right for a n***a to say f** y'all you know we gon' do the f** we want you know bang bang you know it was cool for a n***a to do that, other than that it was never heard of even back in 'em Gim Brown days them n***as was dying at the end of the pictures you know and hip hop done n***as still living that n***a that doing all the dirt still living it's like.. that's like the hero sh** that go back to Africa telling stories and sh** we just pa** the hero through soldier though we pa**ing story through soldier and hardcore youngster that come up when they see there's n***a that can do something that can shoot back sh** it's all good you would still pride you would still self defense and everybody got the right of self defense [Interviewer]: So 'Pac what you think about the movie as far as reality go you know what I'm saying gang bangin' and is there reality popping right now [2Pac]: In the streets you mean? [Interviewer]: yeah [2Pac]: hell yeah ain't nuttin but k**ing having right now but it's really like you can't tell a n***a not to do that because gangs ain't nuttin but tribes and n***a could not survive out here by his self so all I say the gang is all black be down for all black but sh** you can survive out here by yourself, the police ain't nuttin but a gang your national guard is a gang we learn all that gat sh** from the government we learn all this gun sh** from the government you know they get somebody get a gun the gov get bigger gun how they gon show us that we can't pick up, so I'm picking up feel me -- [Interviewer]: let's talk about violence 'Pac [2Pac]: say it again [Interviewer]: The violence has jumping off now you know what I'm saying how'd you feel that'd affect the kids thats coming up right [2Pac]: I think the black... excuse me .. black on violence affect the youngsters making 'em cold hearted when we k** each other it make us not giving a f** about blackness you know, when they see they own n***as you know they're grown n***as that's k**ing other n***as you know it make it like to where is they're cold and heartless you know, I can said it cause I'm heartless I grew up panther wise you know I'm sayin and nowadays n***a is like f** that we gotta survive I'm screaming black like the next man but when the first shot lick off you know it's all good everybody is all in cause n***as will k** you quicker than some of these crackers and then they'll k** you but won't k** some of these crackers which k**s me so and also like that police violence against us that is making us crazy that was making us k** each other cause we really want to k** the police but we scared so we k** each other you know we got guns we just scare to do that to the motherf**ers that's doing it to us so I feel as though, you know, sh**, the violence is just making us more cold hearted animals you know some sh** they can't f** with cause we worst than anything they talk about it [Interviewer]: Let's talk about the black family how do you come up grown enough [?] with that type of environment [2Pac]: I'm saying my peoples, my folks staying down in Penitentiaries for bang robberies and k**ing cops and you know what I'm saying, that 's my family tree it ain't no stretch for me to be talking the sh** I be talking and they didn't do it screaming let's go move the white they was screaming African liberation I'm talking about straight motherf**ing G's but now they in jail now you know, and then nobody gave a f** and in this mothef**ers out here with beats all that drama that be wearing and my folks is in the Pen' over that sh** so I takes sh** like f** it I'm not that type of n***a that's gon be like aramba aramba, you know I live right here and it's hard right motherf**ing here I help y'all soon as I get there but while I'm here, I'm speaking the language that we speak, I'm dressing the clothes that we dressing and I'm fighting the battle that we got to fight, you know what I'm saying and if n***a wanna be down sh** it could be all n***a thang but if them n***as don't, sh** I be by motherf**ing self but n***as will following you know what I'm saying and n***as won't gon see it till the last second this ain't no sh** that just happening in this Cent' in this little 10 years this sh** been goin' off for ganger everybody been talk about it everybody make song about it just for real you know what I'm saying and we runnin' out n***as to bury [Interviewer]: Where's the music going 2Pac? is it gon' get harder? [2Pac]: I don't know it depends on n***as balls if n***as got big nuts like me it's gon get way harder but sh** if n***as got little n***as it's gon start getting back to a different type rap you know what I'm mean partying and f**ing and all of that type of sh** because that's what we talking about when they don't let us talk about when we really wanna talk about so it depends you can listen to the radio and listen to what n***as be talking about and if they start talking that crazy sh** then it ain't cool if n***as still talking that thug sh** you know that hardcore sh** it's all good but if they talking that hen you know all that crazy sh** it ain't gon' be like that not nuttin is wrong with that but it's something wrong with it if you think that's hardcore you know what I'm saying [Interviewer]: [?]influenced through rappers head on the kids???? [2Pac]: ultimate, ultimate some of these kids should know that some of these rappers ain't like that and that's the bad part you know the good part it just some rappers who took that sh** seriously like me I feel as though everything I rap about sh** anybody could check my card on it and I gotta be able to pullin' pull show and improve whenever somebody wanna pull my card on it some of these n***as gotta do the same thang but it ain't like that they screaming they soldiers but they not being soldiers in reality so it's like that what's the bad part cause some of these kids really believe you you know they really doing that sh** n***as be listening to tapes and knocking cop off and sh** you know what I'm sayin and that sh** is deep you know what I'm sayin [Interviewer]: is that what you saying in like Strictly for n***as [?] in the album that came out [2Pac]: yeah it's like,you know like, sh**, f** it ain't nuttin wrong with it being all black thang that don't mean we're racist cause we want n***as to survive ain't nuttin wrong with that we say this just for blacks can't nobody say sh** if you sayin we strictly for n***as can't nobody I am being racist I ain't saying f** all the crackers I'm just saying still strictly for my n***as that's all n***as thang you know and when I'm down mexicans all that wanna be down but if that sh** really it's for n***as [Interviewer]: What about the female rappers [?] cause you dissing the b**hes and hoes how you feel about that? [2Pac]: I feel as though it really ain't as big as everybody making you know even the females know what's b**hes females don't even hang with females so why would they expect n***a understand something they don't understand it that's one two, is that these b**hes is like boss she out there handling her business she aim saying why call me b**hes; SHE CLOWNING! and that's what you do, that's how you show and improve bet no n***a gon f** with her if you call yourself a b**h, Who can call you a b**h? but f** it I'm a n***a that's just like I don't even believe in that I'm not a b**h sh** if you're not a b**h why the f** in that conversation why the f** you even put-- I ain't no b**h, what okay [Interviewer]: What about the female rappers? [2Pac]: female rappers some is row, some is not, some still sellin' co*k, some getting pimped, some is f**ing whoever doing their music and soon them n***as ain't getting more p**y they ain't putting no more records out so that's like the damn part, if they just you know put they co*k in they hand and just drop records it would be cool but they keep f**ing mixing business and pleasure that a n***a can't really be a fan of that I can't really get in into boss' music if she's hardcore I'm gon' stay hardcore cause I can be down for that liking this n***a tape nah I won't buy this b**h tape I buy this n***a tape but if she start flip flopping it's a difference anybody start flip flopping it's a difference [2Pac]: every album I did I ain't trippin off that only time that I ever sat back and wrote the rhyme that I was goin' do and thought about it like it's the "Same Song" song I did with Digital Underground besides that every record that came out that 2Pac did I did high and drunk in the studio while they was making the beat like laying the beat down and that's why I be soundin' little sloppy but that's all it be like f** it I feel as though n***as drunk and high when they gon' still listen to it you gon' like it or not and I don't even picture myself to be as like Dre I just picture myself to be like me I would be putting out Underground if nobody ever buy my record and I'll selling up to where's I can putting out underground tapes from there it's cool though you know if you just signed with d**h Row that's gon' be cool too, they gon' be doing my n***a up it's all cool sh** they came to me and said: "Do you wanna work with the Row" and I said "hell yeah" Dre wanna do sh** on my music, my next album I can't really ask him nuttin more than that really in '93 [Interviewer]: so that's beginning of a new family thang [2Pac]:Yep, we goin' on that tour, it's new thug life and d**h row ain't that a b**h [Interviewer]: You coming from up north right you coming from up north and then coming down here just chilling how is it from like up there in Oakland? [2Pac]: it really ain't change just different cultures I feel as though the ghetto was the ghetto it ain't near ghetto I can't go to and kicking it and come up and I don't care who colors or not I didn't always think that so I'm not being co*ky I was scared in L.A. to where's I didn't know nuttin about the game thang that's the only thing I was scared of just ignorance not knowing we're not to go sh** if I been there long enough they can smoke me I really don't care, it's all good, cause I'm in here, I'm in here Watts, this is Compton there's no place that I won't go and I feel as though if you got love and if you putting out real sh** you can do that if you kicking that sh** from your heart you can go wherever your heart want you to go if you kicking that sh** from the white folks office them white folks gon' have to bring you through the hood if you they tell you when you be a g sh** they gon' have to tell you when you come to the hood so it's cool like this, since I got big nuts, my big nuts take me wherever I wanna go and I love that I like that I like that I went to Chicago, we was f**ing with them gang n***as out there it's a good feeling to be, you see these white folks running out like a f**er from these n***as then you get there they all like "What's up 'Pac" they all like down so it's true n***as can unite you know -- -- Mo hand me that 40 ammunition , 40 millimeter ammunition -- I show you how to trick, this a 10 millimeter but I'm loading it with 40 millimeter bullets cause it would work watch [Interviewer]: In this like, anger you shooting at these targets right here? [2Pac]: Anger? [Interviewer]: Yeah [2Pac]: that is when I got that MAC-11 I don't be tryna aim, I just be tryna hit they a** but when I got the glock I aims and hit they a** (word) -- [2Pac]: huh what on my music? uhm sh** the hood everywhere I been I done live in New York that's where I was raised that's where I came up you know and I done move to I done live in Harlem, The Bronx just in New York if you know that's two different cultures then I done live to Baltimore, Marlon that's a whole another type culture that's that the Washington, D.C. scene I didn't live there for 4 years I didn't live in Oakland for 4 years I didn't came out to L.A. and here I be it's like you moving all them ghettos you gon' pick up the slang and all them towns, you gon' pick up one common thing which is dope dealing and that's what everybody do, everywhere I went that was the common thread you know dope everybody gotta make it you know what I'm saying no matter how bad we look down on that that the no. 1 career for young black male in America in the real America [Interviewer]: [?] music [2Pac]: I don't really got nuttin, I rap, I'm a hip hop fan first I was first and foremost that where I am, it shows when I'm meeting n***as I like I show it ain't no on that bullsh** cause I got big nuts, I don't care I like them n***as but now I like "Beat It" I like all the hardcore n***as I buy they tapes my [?] any day any car I on anywhere I go you can check my pockets or anything it's tapes hip hop and I don't listen -- it ain't got to be the n***a that is platinum it could be some underground tape I got from Chicago but I spread that sh** around I really do enjoy the music I like that hardcore sh** I think it's good it get me through a lot to sh** it get me through a lot to know that another n***a is feeling what I feel, going through what I going through And if you keep it hardcore that's how it is but if we always talking about the good time sh** when a n***a having a bad time he gotta turn his deck off and listen to keep sweating it's not like, sh** hip hop should go through every single emotion that we have you know --- --- [2Pac]: like that is the perfect example when people used to ask me last year what you call your music hardcore I didn't even put it in that position I said it was soul music cause that's what it is to me it's like Bill Withers and Marvin Gaye you know how they used to like sang and no matter who is listen to the tape was still a black music, it was black music and that's how you know the rap is it's like like "Straight Up Menace" that song "Straight Up Menace" Compton Most Wanted when that sh** came out n***a was having a bad day you know I was on my way to get some weed f**ed up you know I done been intense and sh** and I was listened to that sh** just to know that another n***a was feeling the same way you feel a rapper that you know that you seen and the music fit and the words fit that sh** is like you know get you through just like as if you gotta phone call from a homie to see I understand you know what I'm saying it's like the music let you know that another person understand and for the black community especially we have like broken families with no father no big brothers and so the music becomes the big brother or the music becomes the father because you listen to all the fathers so you be like Ice Cu.. I grew up Ice Cube, Public Enemy, KRS-ONE, LL Cool J, Big Daddy Kane all them n***as was my daddy cause I ain't have nuttin and that's why I listen to em to know how to have big nuts you know what I'm saying them the n***as who I gauge my nuts by so if Cube was saying he was knocking this n***a off and Kane was saying this and this how you do a n***a and LL was saying you beating this n***as like this you grew up being okay let's f** it haha fu*k IT I got big nuts aha, I'm knocking n***as off I'm not taking sh** from the police, Cube told me this "b**h Iz a b**h" and I'm not f**ing with these hoes you grew up and you get the listen that you would've gotten from your daddy but you get it from n***as cause they got it from they daddy and they spitting the game so the game is the music and it's like you paying 10 dollars for a whole lifestyle of game that why these white kids could dress and act like n***as cause all they got to do is gon' get 10 tapes and after they study them 10 tapes they got f**ing hood 101 (hahahaha) that's the exact example look at em white boys sh** they got down pack mode on some n***as got they hats to the back they saggin, extra saggin the right shoes the right belts they know what kinda draws they got to wear they know they got to have T-Shirt they know what Swap Meet to go through they know when to [?] they a** home that's all from our records we taught em that we ain't even get paid really so it ain't like it's just the music we selling we selling the game, the lifestyle cause soon we start talking about some of that Vanilla Ice sh** they ain't gon' buy our records, long as you talking about the hood they gon' buy the record cause they wanna know what's happening in the hood how we can we live as dope as y'all doing in the hood up in these rich a** mansions and that's what some rappers is doing they portraying the role but they really getting it from tapes they really getting it from all other sh** -- [2Pac]: I got these I got hollow point rifle bullets let me show ya you know rifle bullets go through the vest by they self they could go through the vest right so by me having hollow point on it you know hollow point making it expand it'll go through the vest and then expand (yeah), you know that's for n***as the'd be wearing vest like me listen for the police if they ever come get me for some bullsh** nah I don't wanna go to jail which I don't I got this [?] I ain't going to jail not at less I want to, not at less I did some I go but I finna go for nothing you know what I'm saying, so if they come for me I'm putting a 90 rounder in they *a*** -- [2Pac]: (hollow point) hollow point like a motherf**er so really a 90 rounder, with some hollow point and 223's, a glock, a MAC-11, a 9 millimeter, 357 gotta 12 gauge Mossberg over there.. sensational n***as [?] than the motherf**ers offer me you feel me and a bag full of bullets I'm telling some n***as could pack what I pack in a bags little bullets and then you truly achieve unless you do all this I really don't think n***a should be doing that all rapping cause now go check my record and I'm rapping about all this talking about 9's 45's all the sh** that I got and bullets how you gon' do all that k**ing n***a with no bullets n***as be having 3 bullets in they guns check you n***as check you n***as that got gun and I betcha have the n***as got 3 bullets in they guns? cause they don't go to the range, they don't buy bullets, I gotta bag of bullets and I'm dead serious about this sh** and I can shoot half of these n***as came to shoot it's a range test I did this to set a precedent now let's see what other n***as is doing all that other sh** now you know I'm talking it like I welcome it now all I really gotta do is shoot at a live target but it ain't got that deep yet and I'm not really tryna prove nuttin, so it's all good until then I keep shootin in purpose -- so don't get pistol whips