[BBC Radio 4 Today's interview clip with Hillary Clinton]
Clinton: Well, since the 1990s it's been very much wrapped up in this idea: aliens, crashed.. saucers and whatnot. My take on that is that's very much part and parceled to the CIA's.. intention, to use that as a kind of psychological operation, like "I'll look over here," "look at the aliens," "talk about this," because then you won't notice what's really going on. I mean, what's really been going on at Area 51, since it was built in 1951, uh, some of our most, radically secretive national security program that had to do with intelligence, surveillance, and recognizance, not just of a dependence department, but of the CIA, NRO, NSA, just about everything, you know, any intelligence organization that exists.
??? So when Hillary Clinton said she'd open up of the files, if she'd became president. Presumably what will happen is she'd be told, "can't open up any of these, it's a national security risk."
Jacobsen: I think Hillary Clinton's saying that is much about a fiction, as the "crashed saucer" idea. I mean, you know, what's interesting to me about Hillary Clinton's saying that, is, a "writing my book, that at one point, during an investigation, to some various programs that we're going on at the Nevada test site, that's America's nuclear weapons facility, inside of where which Area 51 is built by the way... and president Clinton was asking about some of these terrible, you know, human experimental programs that were going on there. And a decision was not to tell the president, why, because he didn't have a need to know.
??? And indeed, and finally if we may, indeed, the very words Area 51 were unsayable, even by presidents for many years.
Clinton: Well that's absolutely right, because for many years, for many decades, I mean, in, let's think, it was late 2013. President Obama, ingest, spoke of Area 51, and that was the very first moment in US history, that the word "Area 51," or the phrase "Area 51" became decla**ified. Before that, he could not say that word. I, as a journalist, if I was interviewing any current employee of the agency or the Pentagon, the- I was told in advance: "if you say 'Area 51,' the interview would be over." I could only refer to it with the euphemism: "the test site," "the ranch," "gloom lake," and speak about programs that'll be decla**ified. But no matter what, you could not say "Area 51."